US Open 10-Ball & US Open 8-Ball

Entries are being accepted for the US Open 10-Ball Championship until 8 p.m. this evening (Tuesday), so the brackets won't be posted until sometime after that.
 
Still seems like a tough field. Would've been much tougher if Darren and Dennis entered.

I like Shane or Alex.

Maybe Corey to win the 8b.
 
If John morra can carry his momentum from the hard times 10 ball, I wouldn't be surprised to see him win
 
This is all true! Not popular around this forum, but true none the less.

I don't even understand how this could even happen? I thought for sure some poolroom would want to have their own US Open on proper tables (9 foot)? Oh, right the name..How about The North American Open? It wouldn't have the money or the field, but at least it would be a proper POOL tournament, not whatever this is! This is like having the olympic 100 meter sprint on a 25 m track!

I have no idea who would pay money to watch someone play on 7 foot tables, and I'm not sure I want to know! You literally could not pay me to watch this! I did in fact try, at one point to sit through a match, but it is simply impossible! An hour of professionals bunting balls around on kiddie tables, I can't belive ANYONE could take this seriously! Even looking at a still frame, the table looks completely ridiculous!

I can't believe there are no pool purists left in North America!? These people claim to be "saving" the sport, but what they have in fact done is completely changed it, and IMO turned it into crap! What's next, 5 foot tables? 5 drink minimum? Maybe pool is better off as a true amateur sport, rather than becoming something completely different and inferior. Thank God allmighty that snooker is being run by Brits. They may have their quirks, but at least this kind of thing would NEVER EVER fly there!


Listen, I'm a 9 footer guy as well and I really can't stand 8 ball either ( playing nor watching ). However, I do think it's cool when we have a variety of games, tables, and rules for the pros to compete on / with. Makes it a little more interesting, at least for myself. From a marketing viewpoint it is very smart too. Who is pro pool marketed to? Well the amateurs of course! We all know most leaguers and amateurs are scared to death of a full size. So they can probably relate way way better when they see the pros playing on a BB and playing 8 ball. They may see them and think, man that could be me lol. Sounds kinda like a joke but I'm being absolutely serious on this. I think we all know the true test is and always will be on a full size but I see nothing wrong with throwing in some BB play here and there. .

From CSI's viewpoint - I don't imagine Mark makes truckloads of cash from the pro events he puts on as compared to what he does with leagues. I think all of the events Mark puts on are great, but once again I believe league is where the money is at. So with that being said I think it's extremely smart to put on events that are specifically geared toward league players essentially. Not to mention the costs Mark stated about the costs just to be able to use the 9'ers. A STACK PER TABLE!!!!! I think any and all prize $$$ would go by by. Anyhow Mark, thank you for all the time and effort and money you put in to make these events even possible!!!!
 
I think this event with the US Open 9b will be critical on who gets on the MC team.

Skylar is the wildcard if its Rodney, Oscar, and Dechaine with SVB getting an auto-bid(if shane isnt top 3).
 
I think this event with the US Open 9b will be critical on who gets on the MC team.

Skylar is the wildcard if its Rodney, Oscar, and Dechaine with SVB getting an auto-bid(if shane isnt top 3).

These events are level 3 in the Mosconi point system, so not many points. Us Open 9-ball, or placing in the World 9-ball, that's where the points really are.
 
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Ozzy asked me before when I stated the website was not user friendly. This is one example of what I am talking about.

http://www.playcsipool.com/2016-us-open-championships.html Main page for the tournament. No link to the brackets and no instructions on how to find them.

Right - I only found it because there is a link for the amateur events, and the first part of the url is ctsondemand, so I tried that. In fairness it's probably only been up for an hour or two, so hopefully they'll get a link soon.
 
In other news, Mike Dechaine played Danny Smith in the first round. Danny was playing perfectly and Mike had a couple of bad rolls - not having a shot after the break, etc., and Danny got up 7-1. Mike broke in game 9, had an easy open shot after the break, shot quickly and missed, and then forfeited before sitting back down.
 
Yep. Payouts are always enhanced by added money, but it is the participants who usually make the biggest contribution which is why I have always encouraged paying deep into the field, at least 25%. Unfortunately, this gets shot down by some who believe differently, but I still stick by my statement that, more people will play in pool tournaments if you pay deeper. Sure, you're going to get some caterwauling from the best players and those who think they have a shot at the first, second & third place money. The complainers usually say that they would rather have a "decent" payday or nothing at all.

If 7 foot tables become the norm for pool tournaments, then it is quite possible that eventually there will be GREATER PARTICIPATION rather than fewer, as soon as the "dead money" realizes they aren't so dead and that they are appreciated. And don't let those middle of the road bums think they can get a whiff at the first, second and third place money.

It might not happen this year, but IF more top players opt for other events where larger tables are present, lesser players will realize that they have a better chance to get to the feed trough at the 7 foot events.

Personally, I don't blame the better players for wanting to play on the larger tables. Larger tables mean greater difficulty which means advantage better players. I sure wish there was more money in pool than there is.

Unfortunately for the top players, the economy of 7 foot tables makes more sense to the promoters and that's why you continue to see more and more 7 foot table tournaments.

It will be interesting to see if the tournament promoters move back toward the larger tables or opt to stay with the smaller tables.

It will be interesting to see if the top players who are opting to not play on 7 foot tables, continue to avoid tournaments on the smaller tables.

I'm not sure but I think the top players will realize that if it's about the money, then they will still be earning the lion's share of the purses even on the 7 foot tables.

EXCITEMENT is what good tournament promoters want and need. As I was writing this I was just wondering if the CSI events are alternate break or winner break?

If more added money came from sponsors outside of the industry, then the tournament promoters might not have to shoulder so much of the financial responsibility for holding these events. Until then, as you suggested, I think we may be stuck with smaller tables.

JoeyA



A format that leads to the very best players being almost guaranteed to win is fine in a sport where the money is coming from sponsors/media. In pool, most of the money for the prize pool comes from the players, so races that are short enough to let a lot of players have a chance at a deep run are key to getting participation among the pro players. It probably also helps to get the amateurs to play as well, although some of them will know they are dead money and step up anyway just for the experience.
 
Ugh

Should have S. Wilkie v D. Smith on next! would have been a better match than Corey and Ernesto
 
Should have S. Wilkie v D. Smith on next! would have been a better match than Corey and Ernesto

There has been several stream-worthy matches that would have been better than what we got so far. Schmidt vs Thorsten and Morra vs Deuel off the top of my head. Its probably tough to handle the logistics of it all though. And to be fair, its a very subjective thing.
 
Predator

PS. TO who ever commentated the Oscar Donnie Match, that isn't a predator logo Oscar had on his shirt, it is a Tiger Products logo!
 
There has been several stream-worthy matches that would have been better than what we got so far. Schmidt vs Thorsten and Morra vs Deuel off the top of my head. Its probably tough to handle the logistics of it all though. And to be fair, its a very subjective thing.

I agree! This is a tough tournament, with some amazing world class players!
 
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