Has to be a pre-2001 Valley(round corner cabinet) to use Penguins afaik.the rails are not bolted through the slate. cushion blocks are side mounted through the top rail. Worsted Cloth and Penguin cushion upgrade will make it play a bit better
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The local place I've been playing has 3 Valley and 2 Dynamo's which look identical tor the Valleys. You can usually pick one of these up cheap or free.
What kind of cost are you looking at for rails?
Yeah there's a local guy who has a warehouse full of 8' tables I'm told at $250 piece. They are cheap I think cause no one wants to move them LoLThe local place I've been playing has 3 Valley and 2 Dynamo's which look identical tor the Valleys. You can usually pick one of these up cheap or free.
What kind of cost are you looking at for rails?
The biggest downfall as you put it, is not actually the table, but rather the mechanics that work on them, as most have no idea what they're doing other than slapping some new cloth on and calling it done.How good can you get a 8ft valley to play? What's the best thing to do to them such as rails or cloth? What's the biggest downfall to these tables as far as playability goes?