thanks for the answers. its a ss jointed cue, finish in very good condition 6point, razorsharp even points. the ivory, silver, ebony cue in the new pictures is a michael vollmer cue. he has learned cuebuilding by tony. i have heard that tony did not make shafts for his past customers. did you think it is a good idea to let vollmer make me shafts for the black boar?