Value Schon R-12?

[Hunter]

Hi,

I'm looking at a Schon R-12. Does anyone know what the value would be in 95% condition?

Thanks!

Steve

 

[pawnmon]

Last R 12 I saw for sale was $650.00 asking. It was very nice and straight (easily over 90% condition overall) and came with a pretty good vinyl case. This was about 6 months ago. Hope this helps.

 

[Hunter]

Thanks Pawnmon!

 

[TATE]

Hi,

I'm looking at a Schon R-12. Does anyone know what the value would be in 95% condition?

Thanks!

Steve

Hi Steve,

There is quite a difference depending on the model/year. Here is what my experience has been.

1. If it has sharp points, sharp inlays, and stitch rings, one straight shaft, I would say at least $1000 to $1100. Add $150 for an extra shaft.

- If it has all of the above, but silver rings, knock off $100 to $200 (they made a lot more with silver rings than stitch rings)

- If it has rounded points, knock off 50% from either of the above. The rounded point models (there's one on E-Bay now) will go for $600 or so. I think these are players, not collectors.

- If it has sharp points and rounded inlays, knock off 25% (worth $700 - $800).

If you can find one, you want #1 above.

Here's my brief page on Schon with some pics.

http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonPage.html

Chris

 

[TATE]

Hi,

I'm looking at a Schon R-12. Does anyone know what the value would be in 95% condition?

Thanks!

Steve

I forgot to mention I have 2 R-12's, one with the gray/blue veneers exactly like the first catalog with stitch rings, and one with red veneers and silver rings.

Very good looking cues.


Chris

 

[Hidy Ho]

Chris,

I have one with silver rings and sharp inlays. My understanding is that silver rings were "upgrade" from stitches? I have say I prefer the look of stiches over the rings though.

Also emails sent to you regarding the other matter.

Hi Steve,

There is quite a difference depending on the model/year. Here is what my experience has been.

1. If it has sharp points, sharp inlays, and stitch rings, one straight shaft, I would say at least $1000 to $1100. Add $150 for an extra shaft.

- If it has all of the above, but silver rings, knock off $100 to $200 (they made a lot more with silver rings than stitch rings)

- If it has rounded points, knock off 50% from either of the above. The rounded point models (there's one on E-Bay now) will go for $600 or so. I think these are players, not collectors.

- If it has sharp points and rounded inlays, knock off 25% (worth $700 - $800).

If you can find one, you want #1 above.

Here's my brief page on Schon with some pics.

http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonPage.html

Chris

 

[TATE]

Hi,

I'm looking at a Schon R-12. Does anyone know what the value would be in 95% condition?

Thanks!

Steve

Here's the one on E-Bay that closed for $610 recently - rounded points but sharp inlays:

Schon R-12


Here's one with sharp points and rounded inlays. Looks like the butt cap was taken off and shortened by a do-it-yourselfer, god bless 'em!

E-Bay R-12


Chris

 

[Hunter]

Thanks Chris! I was looking at the one on Ebay (Item 7193217098). It was stuck around $500. It finally went for $610. It was the blue grey veneered model with stitch rings. I couldn't get back to the auction, as I had a customer walk in at the witching hour, so it ended up being a moot point. I had a prototype for this model once upon a time that ended up being worth some nice money, so I thought this one was a little low...

The Paradise should be hitting the door soon, Chris. I think you're an hour behind us, but it's supposed to be there by three your time. Let me know when it shows! Hope ya like it...

Steve

 

[TATE]

Chris,

I have one with silver rings and sharp inlays. My understanding is that silver rings were "upgrade" from stitches? I have say I prefer the look of stiches over the rings though.

Also emails sent to you regarding the other matter.

Jazz,

I actually have old receipts from a Schon dealer where they charged $30 extra for the silver rings. I don't know if they were just padding the cost or if the factory actually charged extra.

However, the reason why I think the stitch ring cues are worth a little more is because the production was far fewer in Schon's early days . Once they started using silver rings, they made about 10 R-12's for every one they originally made in the old style. So it's just an issue of rarity.

The main thing is this when it comes to old Schons. #1, first and foremost, you want sharp points and sharp inlays. Rounded inlays don't look as good. Just look at the diference between your cue and the one that's on E-Bay right now.

Also, I tend to value any cue that is exactly like a first catalog photo as worth a little more than the cues made a few years later.

Chris

 

[TATE]

Thanks Chris! I was looking at the one on Ebay (Item 7193217098). It was stuck around $500. It finally went for $610. It was the blue grey veneered model with stitch rings. I couldn't get back to the auction, as I had a customer walk in at the witching hour, so it ended up being a moot point. I had a prototype for this model once upon a time that ended up being worth some nice money, so I thought this one was a little low...

The Paradise should be hitting the door soon, Chris. I think you're an hour behind us, but it's supposed to be there by three your time. Let me know when it shows! Hope ya like it...

Steve

The one you missed on E-Bay had rounded points if you look closely - you might have lucked out missing it!

Chris

 

[Hunter]

Yeah Chris, all I was looking at was the stitch rings and the sharp inlays...

 

[Shorty]

I saw a guy on here with an 86 with sharp points and no inlays, 60 inch cue as well...to me that is the BOMB of Schon cues. Be a definite goal of mine to own a cue like that some day.

Shorty