Varney Cues

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A few weeks ago I got a playing cue and a jump/break cue from Kevin Varney at Varney Cues. I have held off writing about them until I got a little more playing time to see if my initial enthusiasm was justified. It was.

The playing cue is a nearly plain SP with a flat faced, phenolic collared wood to wood joint with 3/8-10 brass screw which goes directly into the shaft wood with no insert. I got the cue with a Tiger Sniper tip to try after regularly being a Moori user. I have made the transition from my other playing cue with no major problems. I would describe the hit of this cue as stiff but soft with great feedback of the feel to the hand. It really is a pleasue to play with. One comment - I am still not sure about the Sniper tip vs Moori. I've had no problems with it and it performs well, but it is different.

The J/B cue is a nearly matching SP design but with a slightly different taper, stiffer shaft, canvas/ phenolic one piece tip and ferrule with flat faced wood to wood phenolic collared joints with stainless screws into the wood.

My breaking performance has improved dramatically since getting this cue. I am not an extremely powerful breaker like the pros, but with some practice with this cue, I am able to make balls on the break, from the box, in 8 ball over 50% of the time usually controlling the cue to the center of the table. In 9 ball, from the rail, I am making ball(s) on the break about 80% of time with good cue control also. This is a huge improvement for me and with more experience, I am sure it will only get better.

I've never been much of a "jumper", but took a 30 minute free lesson the other day and at the end of that time was jumping over balls anywhere from 8 inches - 2 feet away with fairly regular consistency. The cue seems to be very easy to learn to jump with and now I need practice to develop control and technique. With the break butt removed, the jump cue is approx 44 1/2 inches long.

In summary. I am more than pleased with this purchase. Kevin was a pleasure to deal with and everything in the transaction went very smoothly.
 
Question

I got a price quote on a cue very similar to my Frey s/p and Varney was higher.
Can you as an owner of one justify the higher price compared to a well known and respected maker such as Frey??

Just a question to Varney owners or those that have tried one
 
daytonajoe said:
I got a price quote on a cue very similar to my Frey s/p and Varney was higher.
Can you as an owner of one justify the higher price compared to a well known and respected maker such as Frey??

Just a question to Varney owners or those that have tried one
Hey Joe,

I just received a Sneaky Pete from Varney a couple of weeks ago. It is the second one that I have owned. I bought one when Kevin first started making cues about 4-5 years ago. The new cue plays great.

I hit balls with a Frey about 6-8 months ago, and almost purchased one. But opposite from you, they wanted way more for the cue than Kevin charged me. Now I did not try to buy the cue from Frey himself, but a dealer in Tennessee who may have jacked the price a little. The Frey did have a wrap, which I didn't want, and that may have jacked the price a little as well.

I think that most competent cue guys make a solid sneaky. And from what I have seen, most prices are in the same ballpark. I like Kevin's cues for several reasons, but mainly because they have a parabolic taper, and a stiff, but not too stiff hit. I agree that Frey is a top name among sneaky's right now. I have played with both, and I think that they are actually very similar cues.

Mike
 
daytonajoe...I don't think $250 for a plain sp or $375 for one with a full set of ringwork is considered too high. Sure if you keep checking the option list you can then get a sp into $450 range. The Frey I saw listed here on AZB in another thread was $450 and very plain...I even posted that I need to raise my prices. I think you sir are indeed barking up a wrong tree. If you have nothing better to do than complain about a quote...you've not even held one of my cues...and apparently will not.
You get whay you pay for. Besides...prices must not be too damn bad...see, I have this list of people w/cash who love my prices & cues, who are waiting politely for theirs.
 
Nice F'n additude.

I was asking as several people have asked the price of your cues and you must pm them cuase you never post the price. I pm'd you and received a quote of $375 for a s/p with rings and a hoppe ring.

Seems high to me for a relatively unknown que maker compared to a Frey Sp without trim rings at the joint for less $$$$

Keep up the positive response to questions. I'm sure it willl increase your sales.!!!!!!!!!!
 
Looks to me you are the one with attitude. If you had a question about my prices you should of pm'ed me with more detail.
Lets see...4pt. figured rosewood hustler blank, with linen collars, including ebony & ivory micarta ringwork in the joint, linen Hoppe style buttcap, 3/8-10 pin, laminated shaft with Ivorine4 ferrule & Moori tip. With me paying Priority shipping on top of that! $375.00 does NOT seem a bit high.
No discredit to Bob, he makes a fine cue...but I can drive hours in any direction to a big tournament and normally see at least a dozen of my cues in use...and then sell every cue I have with me. Hmmm....thank you though for you sincere concern about my sales.
 
DatonaJoe,

You really need to compare apples to apples here. You're comparing a cue without joint rings to one with. Also, you have to take into account the free shipping. I just purchased a plain sneaky for $250 wich is almost a hundred dollars less than Frey.

If you really want to compare apples to apples, quote out a Frey with the exact rings you wanted from Varney and then tell us which is higher! It's like me complaining that my fancy Skip cost more than a plain Hercek...lol.

P.S. Mr. Varney was great to deal with! I would have no problem sending business his way and will more than likely be purchasing another cue from him in the future.
 
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maybe you should say what you mean

read what you just posted -vs- the pm you sent and you will see some things missing in your pm description!!

Pm received.....
Thank you for your interest. Currently the only thing I'm working on that is not spoken for is a couple of very nice fancy hustlers. Fiqured rosewood with ringwork at joint, 3/8-10 and Hoppe style buttcap. If you look in the cue gallery of AZB, under the thread "Mike T.'s new baby" you'll see one very similar, sans the hoppe butt. Price...$375.

It appears that you've added a laminated shaft, ebony/ivory ringwork, morri tip, ivorine ferrule,plus shipping.
Maybe now you can see where the confusion lays.
 
Mr Varney,

Your prices are very competetive for the quality that you seem to offer. I would think that they are more than fair. You can never please everyone, but it looks as if everyone that has received your cues thus far has been happy.

The Cut
 
Sorry daytonajoe for any confusion...but you did not ask for any details or specifics about the cue. I simply was stating that I had a pair (now only one left) of Hoppe style cues that at the time were available. I gave you a brief description, with no interest shown on your part...I did not go futher into details.
I will stand by what I said...I think Mike T.'s cue is well worth $375 and it has no laminated shaft.
Thanks very much to those of you with kind words.
I will post the Hoppe style cue with pics this week in the "for sale" section, it is indeed $375.00. Anyone please feel free to pm me with any questions or details that may be of concern.
Pictured is Mike Templeton's cue...
 

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IMO $375 is a very fair price for that kind of cue. When you look at some of the production cues in this range I think it is a very fair price. Plus if you have a problem or would like a repair done you know who to contact rather than a factory in China like Fury or Lucasi for example. Just my opinion FWIW.
 
cgriffin5 said:
IMO $375 is a very fair price for that kind of cue. When you look at some of the production cues in this range I think it is a very fair price. Plus if you have a problem or would like a repair done you know who to contact rather than a factory in China like Fury or Lucasi for example. Just my opinion FWIW.

I second your OPINION...:p
 
Tell ya what...I'm going to have a "daytonajoe sale" on that one particular cue. Just to show everyone what a stand up guy I am...I'm NOW GOING TO SELL IT FOR...$250. Later this week at some unannounced time...I will post pics in the FOR SALE section and I will sell the cue for the above mentioned price to the first AZ member (daytonajone prohibited from this contest of course) who post that they want it. This is a one time deal to own a super cue. Reread my post above if you need cue details...the cue looks to weigh 19oz when finished.
Ahh...what the hell...I'll even let daytonajoe have the deal if he's the first one posting.
 
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Varney Cues said:
Tell ya what...I'm going to have a "daytonajoe sale" on that one particular cue. Just to show everyone what a stand up guy I am...I'm NOW GOING TO SELL IT FOR...$250. Later this week at some unannounced time...I will post pics in the FOR SALE section and I will sell the cue for the above mentioned price to the first AZ member (daytonajone prohibited from this contest of course) who post that they want it. This is a one time deal to own a super cue.

Hope you wait until all are bac kfrom the BCA so everyone has a SHOT at the DEAL.......;)
 
Varney Cues said:
PoolSleuth...what is a fair date that everyone would be back?

Can not say EVERYONE, but Most Should be back by the WEDNESDAY, the 24th of MAY.

The Thing Ends Sunday, so I think wednesday is a Fair Time.:cool:
 
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