Video of Line Kjorsvik's run of 53

Roy Steffensen

Roy Steffensen

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Yesterday me and Line decided to tape a 14-1 match between us, and we wanted to upload the whole match. Unfortunately it was taped over 3 discs, and we are having problems editing it to one video. (We are new to this editing thing)

Luckily Line's run of 53 balls was on only 1 disc, so it was easy to edit and make a video of it.

Just some facts from our match, which was played on a Chinesemade table called Yalin, with tightpockets.

I had the opening shot, Line made 2 balls, missed. I ran 4 balls, missed an easy shot. Line ran 17, missed and froze the cueball in the stack. I played a safety, she made a long ball, but scratched on the next shot. I ran 2 balls, then fouled by touching a ball. Score is now 19-5. Line runs 20 and play safe, I try a combination, miss, Line plays 27 but get stucked in the rack. She tries a combination in the pack, misses, and I have to choose one of 2 longshots. I hit the jaws, she rans 53. Score is now 119-5. I make 15, miss on the shot after the breakshot and she finish the match 125-20.

Here's her 53-run. (first the end of her 27 run, then my miss).
Please feel free to comment her game.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2691440873587824574&hl=en

Btw, does anyone know what is the highest run by a female available on tape? Any female ran 100 on tape?
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Yesterday me and Line decided to tape a 14-1 match between us, and we wanted to upload the whole match. Unfortunately it was taped over 3 discs, and we are having problems editing it to one video. (We are new to this editing thing)

Luckily Line's run of 53 balls was on only 1 disc, so it was easy to edit and make a video of it.

Just some facts from our match, which was played on a Chinesemade table called Yalin, with tightpockets.

I had the opening shot, Line made 2 balls, missed. I ran 4 balls, missed an easy shot. Line ran 17, missed and froze the cueball in the stack. I played a safety, she made a long ball, but scratched on the next shot. I ran 2 balls, then fouled by touching a ball. Score is now 19-5. Line runs 20 and play safe, I try a combination, miss, Line plays 27 but get stucked in the rack. She tries a combination in the pack, misses, and I have to choose one of 2 longshots. I hit the jaws, she rans 53. Score is now 119-5. I make 15, miss on the shot after the breakshot and she finish the match 125-20.

Here's her 53-run. (first the end of her 27 run, then my miss).
Please feel free to comment her game.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2691440873587824574&hl=en

Btw, does anyone know what is the highest run by a female available on tape? Any female ran 100 on tape?
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I don't think there is much available on tape.

Jasmin I think had a 93 or something like that but I don't think it was being taped.
 
dmgwalsh said:
I don't think there is much available on tape.

Jasmin I think had a 93 or something like that but I don't think it was being taped.
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Yeah, I know there are many women who have ran more than this 53 run. Line has run 82 against me earlier, and her personal best is 116.

These are the top highest female runs I know of:

Jennifer Chen 158
Jeanette Lee 152
Jeannie Balukas 134
Jasmin Ouschan 127
Ruth McGinnis 126
Line Kjoersvik 116
 
That's a nice bit of shooting by Line :)

Thank you for posting the link and uploading the video :)

Willie
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Yeah, I know there are many women who have ran more than this 53 run. Line has run 82 against me earlier, and her personal best is 116.

These are the top highest female runs I know of:

Jennifer Chen 158
Jeanette Lee 152
Jeannie Balukas 134
Jasmin Ouschan 127
Ruth McGinnis 126
Line Kjoersvik 116
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Roy - enjoyed the videos - believe Ruth Mcginnis did it on a 5 by 10 as she played in that era- Line should have run that 50+ against Charlotte Sorenson as it appeared Charlotte was missing a lot - My beard is growing longer waitin for Line to do it on the "Pool/Billiard Circus" - How about a video of "rockstar" singin us a song??
 
She's smoothe. A picture of simplicity, technique-wise. I love her rhythm and how smoothly she gets into the shooting position and the economy of movement.
I want to be just like her.
Poolwise, that is.
 
yup, she plays good!

Lately I've been comparing different styles of 14.1. She plays what I would call the A-typical Euro 14.1 like Niels, Thorsten, Engert etc.

A fun thing to do is watch a 100 ball run by say Thomas Engert, and then watch one by maybe Dallas West, or Sigel, Hopkins.....VAST difference in styles....no right or wrong, just a different way to get there.
 
Gerry said:
yup, she plays good!

Lately I've been comparing different styles of 14.1. She plays what I would call the A-typical Euro 14.1 like Niels, Thorsten, Engert etc.

A fun thing to do is watch a 100 ball run by say Thomas Engert, and then watch one by maybe Dallas West, or Sigel, Hopkins.....VAST difference in styles....no right or wrong, just a different way to get there.
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What differences do you see? To me, if anything, it's the patience to play the right shot. I've been watching Hohmann in his 4 matches this week so far in Parsippanny, NJ. One thing that I notice is that he always thinks about insurance. He knows how many ways there are to get stuck -- to other balls, without enough balls, with a tough shot, without a break shot, with a bad key ball, etc. He doesn't rush into a shot that may initially look right that isn't right. He seems to wait until the right shot becomes clear. But it's not just the right shot for the Germans; it's the right shot for everyone.
 
bluepepper said:
What differences do you see? To me, if anything, it's the patience to play the right shot. I've been watching Hohmann in his 4 matches this week so far in Parsippanny, NJ. One thing that I notice is that he always thinks about insurance. He knows how many ways there are to get stuck -- to other balls, without enough balls, with a tough shot, without a break shot, with a bad key ball, etc. He doesn't rush into a shot that may initially look right that isn't right. He seems to wait until the right shot becomes clear. But it's not just the right shot for the Germans; it's the right shot for everyone.
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biggest differences between old school (aka north east 14.1) and new skool (aka Euro 14.1) ....

Old school
>finesse the rack by nudging out balls and controlling the table...no risks!
>controlled break shots with generally steeper angles.
>short shots with minimal cue ball movement...control control control.
>NEVER give up the table with an open shot...winning first...the run 2nd

Euro style
>powering into the rack/clusters, it opens the balls, but can lose the CB.
>slamming the break shot.....see above.
>more CB movement with somewhat 9ball patterning.
>I'm gonna say it, and get flamed, BUT...I noticed a weak safety game by some of the Euro players giving up the table without reason....and over looking basic 14.1 moves.

so, those are the differences I see. I was brought up old school here in PA. I'm not trying to slam anyone, just comparing the 2 styles.

G.
 
Gerry said:
biggest differences between old school (aka north east 14.1) and new skool (aka Euro 14.1) ....

Old school
>finesse the rack by nudging out balls and controlling the table...no risks!
>controlled break shots with generally steeper angles.
>short shots with minimal cue ball movement...control control control.
>NEVER give up the table with an open shot...winning first...the run 2nd

Euro style
>powering into the rack/clusters, it opens the balls, but can lose the CB.
>slamming the break shot.....see above.
>more CB movement with somewhat 9ball patterning.
>I'm gonna say it, and get flamed, BUT...I noticed a weak safety game by some of the Euro players giving up the table without reason....and over looking basic 14.1 moves.

so, those are the differences I see. I was brought up old school here in PA. I'm not trying to slam anyone, just comparing the 2 styles.

G.
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After last year's World Championship Feijen wrote in his blog that he tried to play the old style at the beginning of the tournament, but changed to the "Euro-style" after Martin Kempter's 150/160 run.

Feijen said that with the euro-style you always get a wide open table, but the risk of scratching is bigger. The advantage is that on 10 breaks he might scratch once, but on the 9 successful breaks he will most likely make a very big run.
 
This is Feijen's blog from last year:

Hey...

Very disappointed with my result, lost to Huidji from Holland 200-149. Never got going, got stuck on the rack about 4 times on break shots. Ran 70 to make it 120 even but Huidji ran a 50+ right back. Went into the stack once more on a chance and got a cushion first combo...that was it.. The last two weeks I've been working on hitting the breakshots next to the rack softer then in the last 4years. Used to just hit them 100miles an hour with draw but there was always the danger of the scratches in the kitchen corners and the sidepockets but...what I've come to learn in this event is that the softer break is not my thing. Just never get a powerfull feeling going. Talked about it with the Austrians, which was interesting. It's like, if you hit them hard 10 times you might scratch ones but you get 9 wide open racks! If you don't, you don't scratch but have to work for every ball and get stuck on the rack maybe ones...New style versus old style..Kempter also hit the crap out the breakshots and ran a 160. Made some nice runs this event but once you get stuck in that rack a few times, it's mega painfull. Too bad the next 14.1 event is next year..

Huidji is in the semi's so gonna cheer him on today. He plays Kempter and Harriman versus Ortmann who ran a 107 and 93 and out on Orcullo!!
 
Gerry, I agree about the break shots being different, but if you watch Hohmann, Souquet, Feijen, or Van den Berg they rarely do anything unsafe.
One very interesting thing is the way Hohmann chooses to break. It seems to me that he almost always plays for the shallower angle so he can power draw with outside english. If the cueball goes to the side rail, the outside english puts on breaks so it doesn't head uptable. However, if the cueball goes low into the side rail the outside english becomes running english and helps to get it away from the corner pocket.
 
bluepepper said:
Gerry, I agree about the break shots being different, but if you watch Hohmann, Souquet, Feijen, or Van den Berg they rarely do anything unsafe.
One very interesting thing is the way Hohmann chooses to break. It seems to me that he almost always plays for the shallower angle so he can power draw with outside english. If the cueball goes to the side rail, the outside english puts on breaks so it doesn't head uptable. However, if the cueball goes low into the side rail the outside english becomes running english and helps to get it away from the corner pocket.
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I dunno if "unsafe" is the right word, but if you spend a couple days watching guys like Dallas West, Sigel, Butera, Hopkins, etc, you will kinda get what I'm talking about. there are a bunch of factors like table cloth/speed, pocket size, patterning, etc that will become very obvious.

I guess my point is there are guys that Thorsten could give the orange crush to playing 9ball......but playing 14.1 it would be an even bet. In this game knowledege is king.

Gerry
 
Pat Fleming said Thorsten Hohmann is the best straight pool player he's ever seen. There could be a couple of reasons why he'd say that, but after watching this week's event, I can see where he's coming from. Danny DiLiberto is ruthless when commentating on a 14.1 match. He had nothing negative to say about Thorsten. It was just beautiful to behold. I don't know how good his safety game is, but running balls the way he does makes his safety game a little less important than it would be for others.
 
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