Video Recording Matches/ Practice

I use my iphone with this mount. Fits any smartphone. Cheap. Bought a cheap tripod.

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How do you manipulate the video / data once its recorded on ur iphone ?

ie. Do u limit ur recording to 10 or 15 minute sessions & upload direct to you tube ?

Cheers.

Thats the root problem with the iPhone. The video files are huge. I can upload 5 min videos from my iPhone to youtube, using the "share" function in the camera roll. 20 minute videos it says "no way" in a using nicer computer language.

I also have iMovie on my iPhone. (this used to be a paid app, it might be free now). Anyway, that allowed me to reformat the 20 minute video for youtube. But then it didn't let me upload it anyway.

Its just a hassle after a hassle.

Anohter issue with it is if you mount it to the wall (for example if you have an old iPhone), you can't see what its recording unless you use the front facing camera.

And if you want to put the iPhone movies on your computer to then process them for youtube, its still a pain. You have to climb up that ladder, plug the phone to the computer with a usb cable, and then transfer GB's of movie files over.

So for sure you can use the iPhone.... but if you want a permanent and easy to use setup, that you will be using several times a week, its just way too much hassle, in my experience.
 
Thats the root problem with the iPhone. The video files are huge. I can upload 5 min videos from my iPhone to youtube, using the "share" function in the camera roll. 20 minute videos it says "no way" in a using nicer computer language.

I also have iMovie on my iPhone. (this used to be a paid app, it might be free now). Anyway, that allowed me to reformat the 20 minute video for youtube. But then it didn't let me upload it anyway.

Its just a hassle after a hassle.

Anohter issue with it is if you mount it to the wall (for example if you have an old iPhone), you can't see what its recording unless you use the front facing camera.

And if you want to put the iPhone movies on your computer to then process them for youtube, its still a pain. You have to climb up that ladder, plug the phone to the computer with a usb cable, and then transfer GB's of movie files over.

So for sure you can use the iPhone.... but if you want a permanent and easy to use setup, that you will be using several times a week, its just way too much hassle, in my experience.

I not sure in what kind of format iphone is saving videos, if you say that the are huge it might be "iframe" which would explain it. If it's mpeg4 (mp4) that would mean that it's just the matter of transfering file(s) to computer.


Youtube allows users to upload videos longer then 15 minutes, BUT you have to confirm you account by phone number ( they will call you or send you text massage, with code which you need to sign). Then you can upload "as long ones as you wish" :wink:



In my opinion for beginning smartphones (iphone, samsung, etc.) are good, but not good for serious practise, and etc, because someone can call you and it stops before you notice...
But if you think about it, to make it more user friendly, camcorder or webcam is a right way. Good to safe some money, and go for it, having behind the mind for what else in meantime you can use you equipment.
 
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I know you pain...

But I have a remedy for you


1.Get youself a AVS Video Editor.
2.Cut or edit anything you want upload ( this software is very easy ) and mark if video is 16x9 of 4x3 (if software won't do it automatically, but it should)
3. Click "Produce" --> "File" --> choose MPEG4 --> "Custom" ( put original resolution: e.g 1920 x 1080, etc. / and then the most important: change bitrate to : 720 of 620)

Size of video will be 50 % of original, and so uploading time will be 50% shorter

Thanks! I appreciate that.
 
Thanks for the info Dopc. What is the open source software you are using for video switching? Could you please post a 20 sec clip of video that you have produced so i can see quality of video stream? I would think the video would drag being its USB and a web camera. I have a Logitech 9000 HD but the video is not smooth as a recording from my camcorder.

Thanks again for the info
Chris

I own a 9000, and that isn't going to cut it. While the 9000 will do fine on SD 640x480 4:3 or 640x360 16:9, IMHO it will still look rather "webcamish" as far as fine detail goes. The problem with the 9000 is, while it is capable of an HD resolution, the image sensor in it just can't keep up with HD resolutions at 30 frames per second, which results in the lag your describing. ( HINT: to improve the 9000 lagging in SD* some, take the exposure & gain off auto in the camera properties and bump it down a couple notches and adjust your brightness and gain to make up for it)

The newer c920 will do 720p & 1080p just fine depending on your needs (it's no $3,500 full sensor video camera, but the results aren't bad at all). That's what this boils down to, what is your needs? If its to present yourself professionally and live stream action matches, to start your budget needs to be about 25-100 times what your working with just to get started. If it's to just record your own play or maybe a little action streaming just for kicks, then the webcam route will work just fine as an inexpensive entry level way to get started. The disadvantage to a webcam over a dedicated camera is the lack of a physical zoom lens, and digital zoom sucks so don't bother with it. So when using a webcam, you zoom with the distance from the subject your filming, about all you can do with a fixed lens.

My video is as smooth as 30 frames per second will allow, no lagging or stuttering if that's what your asking about like with the 9000 with a HD resolution. Now if the computer happens to do an update while I'm recording, then the video may stutter as the PC is busy doing other things at that moment (why I set updates to not auto install). As with any equipment, never use anything on Auto, always adjust your camera setting to manual (focus, exposure, brightness, contrast, white balance etc for best results). As for the quality of the camera itself in HD, just do a youtube search for the camera and watch the videos, thousands of them available for the c920 camera. For just being a webcam with such a small image sensor, the results are rather impressive in my opinion.

Now as for the software I use to accomplish this. I use Open Broadcaster Software. It is used mostly by video game streamers, but it is a powerful tool none the less. Allow me to warn you though, the software can be difficult to figure out if you have no clue how to work with video sources, cropping and video layering. If you have a good grasp of how to work with video, video layers and camera sources and aren't afraid to dive in and play with it, it will handle most basic needs. Not bad for free. There is help documentation with it, enough to get you started anyways and check out the forums for help and ideas. Play with it for a while and you begin to see what hidden power it's capable of.

Hope this was of some help and informative. I could at a later time upload some video for you to inspect, Just not feeling up to it tonight, sorry.

Dopc.
 
Thanks Dopc for the great information. I currently have 2 cameras that I am using a Sony HDR-HC1 and a Canon HV30. Camera A in my video clip I posted is the Sony and Camera B is the Canon. I am currently recording straight to DV tapes then importing to my PC using Adobe Premiere. I use Handbrake to compress the video for YouTube uploads. I will definately check out that open source software. Thanks again for your time and efforts in assiting me with my issues.

Chris
 
I also have iMovie on my iPhone. (this used to be a paid app, it might be free now). Anyway, that allowed me to reformat the 20 minute video for youtube. But then it didn't let me upload it anyway.

Its just a hassle after a hassle.

I use a $2.99 app called Movie Pro Video Recorder.

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/moviepro-video-recorder-pause/id547101144?mt=8

You can change the resolution of your recording, pause and resume recording, set record time and trim out unwanted bits, like stuff between racks or even racking (which is what I do).

It has a drop box for Youtube and Facebook uploading (which I don't).

No hassles for me.
 
Greetings all,
Curious as to what everyone might be using in the way of video recording? I am getting ready to buy a house and as part of my practice routine, I plan on video recording my play/practice. Without running a webcam that is always connected to a computer, I am curious as to what other devices you are all using when it comes to recording methods?

I want something that I can mount to a wall/ceiling (possibly a tripod, havent quite decided that yet), but want to be able to record a decent amount of footage (hour or more) with relatively good video quality 720 maybe? and not spend a crap ton of money.

I currently have a very nice Nikon DSLR, but it only does 10mins of video at a time, so that is rather inconvenient.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

Would be good if you can pay a little extra and get one that has slow motion, the larger the FPS (frame per second) the much clearer image when you slow it down. Iphone 5s have slow motion not bad, not the best.
 
I use a $2.99 app called Movie Pro Video Recorder.

Sounds great indeed - think I will check it out.

Currently 15 minutes via front camera is the limit for me for you tube uploads. [sharing to you tube direct from i-phone] (not sure how big the upload file size was - maybe 75MB ?)

Cheers.
 
Thanks all, this has given me several options to try.

I think I am going to start with a tripod mount for the Ipad and see how that goes for starters, but then the (non-streaming) streaming setup, is likely to be the end result.
 
Some more info for those playing around with recording on iphones...

14min 55sec clip recorded on front camera - 382MB - uploads (shares) to you tube OK.

22min clip recorded via movie pro (320x240 15fps) - 78MB - will *NOT* upload (share) to you tube. "Clip is too long error"

So it deffo seems its the clip length & not the source file size that is the limiting factor when trying to upload (share) to you tube direct from i-phone.

Cheers.
 
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