Video Tape From Behind The Shooter

Tennesseejoe

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Do instructors, who use video, analyze shooters from behind the shot? It seems to me that stroke imperfections would be magnified when viewed from behind. Imperfections such as pumping vertically/horizontally, twisting the wrist, chicken winging, dropping the elbow, ect. This would be especially true on power shots.

What are your findings? Thanks...
 
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Do instructors, who use video, analyze shooters from behind the shot? It seems to me that stroke imperfections would be magnified when viewed from behind. Imperfections such as pumping vertically/horizontally, twisting the wrist, chicken winging, dropping the elbow, ect. This would be especially true on power shots.

What are your findings? Thanks...
You bet. You can see stroke hand movements that way easily also.
 
Do instructors, who use video, analyze shooters from behind the shot? It seems to me that stroke imperfections would be magnified when viewed from behind. Imperfections such as pumping vertically/horizontally, twisting the wrist, chicken winging, dropping the elbow, ect. This would be especially true on power shots.

What are your findings? Thanks...
Why wouldn't they? Do you have reason to believe that they wouldn't?
 
Why wouldn't they? Do you have reason to believe that they wouldn't?

Why wouldn't they? Do you have reason to believe that they wouldn't?
I had a very good lesson 7 or 8 years ago. Recording was 95% from the side and 5% from front. I do not remember any video from behind and the CD is lost. I still have the notes. A short coaching session would be very beneficial for me now. My question was based on your experiences of viewing from behind. Thanks.
 
Yes, the view from behind is valuable. It is the best for some parts of the mechanics. Sometimes if the space around the table is cramped it is difficult to place the camera for a good rear view.

It is very important to get the camera in the right spot. If it is not in the line of the shot, a straight stroke may look crooked.
 
I had a very good lesson 7 or 8 years ago. Recording was 95% from the side and 5% from front. I do not remember any video from behind and the CD is lost. I still have the notes. A short coaching session would be very beneficial for me now. My question was based on your experiences of viewing from behind. Thanks.
Well, okay. Here's my take on it which probably isn't the popular opinion among instructors. I will record what I think the player needs to see. Some instructors like to go through an entire recording routine at the beginning of the lesson. I'm not one of them. I may wait until half-way through the lesson before I record anything. It all depends on the player and where things go with the lesson. For example: I may record only the player's bridge hand and nothing more, or I may record their feet or stance from behind. It all depends.
 
What do you mean by racking critique? Do you have a specific game in mind?
I mean any game. I notice players can have a spinal/posture thing grooved to their stroke which always causes an alignment problem with their racking. I imagine it's part of producing slug racks but I haven't played enough to have drawn any conclusions about it. I'd like to know if refs/teachers have any method for squaring off to the table. (?)
 
I mean any game. I notice players can have a spinal/posture thing grooved to their stroke which always causes an alignment problem with their racking. I imagine it's part of producing slug racks but I haven't played enough to have drawn any conclusions about it. I'd like to know if refs/teachers have any method for squaring off to the table. (?)
Now that's interesting...I must admit I never considered the relationship between a player's shooting stance and their racking perception. Well, first you have to discern which ones are slug-racking and which ones are doing it unintentionally. But I think you have an interesting point there. I've been guilty of that myself unintentionally where my opponent motioned me to straighten out the rack.
 
Now that's interesting...I must admit I never considered the relationship between a player's shooting stance and their racking perception. Well, first you have to discern which ones are slug-racking and which ones are doing it unintentionally. But I think you have an interesting point there. I've been guilty of that myself unintentionally where my opponent motioned me to straighten out the rack.
I had a really good Midwest player offer me the 6 ball if he could rack and had a ton of people telling me I couldn't win.
 
I had a very good lesson 7 or 8 years ago. Recording was 95% from the side and 5% from front. I do not remember any video from behind and the CD is lost. I still have the notes. A short coaching session would be very beneficial for me now. My question was based on your experiences of viewing from behind. Thanks.
Joe...That's a shame you lost the dvds, because reviewing your lesson frequently is a great way to continue improving. The side view shows everything that is going on...how the cue is set up and delivered, how the cue is held and delivered (at different speeds), whether or not the shoulder is involved in the stroke, and lots of other factors. I don't disagree that a rear view can be helpful, but it's definitely not mandatory to get good feedback. The front view was to show you how your head and body align to the shot line. IMO the interpretation from the instructor is what makes the difference. FYI, if you're interested, I'd be happy to come back and do some follow up with you! Remember how hard it rained that night? LOL

Scott Lee
2019 PBIA Instructor of the Year
Director, SPF National Pool School Tour
 
Joe...That's a shame you lost the dvds, because reviewing your lesson frequently is a great way to continue improving. The side view shows everything that is going on...how the cue is set up and delivered, how the cue is held and delivered (at different speeds), whether or not the shoulder is involved in the stroke, and lots of other factors. I don't disagree that a rear view can be helpful, but it's definitely not mandatory to get good feedback. The front view was to show you how your head and body align to the shot line. IMO the interpretation from the instructor is what makes the difference. FYI, if you're interested, I'd be happy to come back and do some follow up with you! Remember how hard it rained that night? LOL

Scott Lee
2019 PBIA Instructor of the Year
Director, SPF National Pool School Tour
Scott...I really enjoyed the lesson and retained most ,especially what I needed. With this virus I have not been out to play and really miss all the folks at JOBs. Your instruction has really helped my consistency, especially on pressure shots.
Thanks again and hope to see you again when the virus stops.
Joe Johann
 
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