WOW!!! Hasn't anyone considered the more obvious reason Wu won?? Nine-ball is too easy. Adolescents and teenagers in affluent societies ALWAYS have more time to waste on pool than adults. If they are playing a game like 9-ball, then good players like Wu can win. If they are playing a game where knowledge and experience count for more (for example straight pool to 200 on tight equipment) I wonder if Wu would win. Are you guys suggesting Wu is the best player in the world because he won a single tournament? There were a hundred guys at DCC that could legitimately have a shot at winning any 9-ball tournament (probably an exaggeration, but you catch my drift). I find that a 16 year old winning is more an indictment of the game than an example of him somehow being a superman. Tennis is filled with these "wunderkinds" because the equipment has made the game far too easy; golf is not far behind.
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Come on. Talent is talent. I bet Wu can EASILY run a hundred in Straight Pool. Almost all of the old time Stright Pool champs were described as boy/girl wonders with high runs in their teens.
I fhte equipment makes the game "easy" then it is just as easy for everyone. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Wu was the best player in the world on Sunday when he won the World Championships. Arguably the best in the world were there to contend for the title and he walked away with it.
I watched the match and when ANYONE can step and run 44 balls IN ORDER with a smashing break in-between each group of 9 ball under that kind of pressure then they are not only world-class but extremely deserving of the win.
I will bet a year's salary that there aren't 100 people in the world who would have turned in that performance at that time under those conditions. I don't care WHO you are 4.25 inch pockets LOOK like pinpoints when the pressure is on.
John
I fhte equipment makes the game "easy" then it is just as easy for everyone. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Wu was the best player in the world on Sunday when he won the World Championships. Arguably the best in the world were there to contend for the title and he walked away with it.
I watched the match and when ANYONE can step and run 44 balls IN ORDER with a smashing break in-between each group of 9 ball under that kind of pressure then they are not only world-class but extremely deserving of the win.
I will bet a year's salary that there aren't 100 people in the world who would have turned in that performance at that time under those conditions. I don't care WHO you are 4.25 inch pockets LOOK like pinpoints when the pressure is on.
John
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onepocketchump
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Also, do you think Wu has more time to "waste" on pool than most of the other participants in the WPC? Somehow I doubt it.
John
John
Williebetmore said:WOW!!! Hasn't anyone considered the more obvious reason Wu won?? Nine-ball is too easy. Adolescents and teenagers in affluent societies ALWAYS have more time to waste on pool than adults. If they are playing a game like 9-ball, then good players like Wu can win. If they are playing a game where knowledge and experience count for more (for example straight pool to 200 on tight equipment) I wonder if Wu would win. Are you guys suggesting Wu is the best player in the world because he won a single tournament? There were a hundred guys at DCC that could legitimately have a shot at winning any 9-ball tournament (probably an exaggeration, but you catch my drift). I find that a 16 year old winning is more an indictment of the game than an example of him somehow being a superman. Tennis is filled with these "wunderkinds" because the equipment has made the game far too easy; golf is not far behind.
WBM, 9-ball is an easy game. But when was the last time a 16 y.o. kid, who has probably been playing pool for only a few years beat the best Champions in the world, in the biggest tournament in the world and won the biggest prize in pool to date ?
There is some truth to some of your statements, but there is no need to begrudge this young mans victory. This will only spur the youth of the world (with the exception of the US) to start playing pool and to aspire to a professional level. When & where was the last time a 16 year old has the chance to win $75,000? Pretty tough at that age.
Williebetmore said:WOW!!! Hasn't anyone considered the more obvious reason Wu won?? Nine-ball is too easy. Adolescents and teenagers in affluent societies ALWAYS have more time to waste on pool than adults. If they are playing a game like 9-ball, then good players like Wu can win. If they are playing a game where knowledge and experience count for more (for example straight pool to 200 on tight equipment) I wonder if Wu would win. Are you guys suggesting Wu is the best player in the world because he won a single tournament? There were a hundred guys at DCC that could legitimately have a shot at winning any 9-ball tournament (probably an exaggeration, but you catch my drift). I find that a 16 year old winning is more an indictment of the game than an example of him somehow being a superman. Tennis is filled with these "wunderkinds" because the equipment has made the game far too easy; golf is not far behind.
It is true 9ball is the easiest the game in pool. But it is easy for everyone, not just for Wu. So the person who can make the game easiest is the best player.
I would disagree with the state ment that the 'wunderkinds' in tennis are made by the advances in equipment. Most of the 'wunderkinds' (the ones winning major tournaments at around 17) are female players. This is because the female game isn't relied so much on the power of the players.
The racquets of today are much easier to play with than the wooden racquets of 30 years ago. However, The generation of players today have better coaching are support systems. They are stronger because of the advances in muscle training techniques and better diet. They put in lots of hard work and are all tremendously talented. Those are the reasons why the current generation of tennis players can succeed at an earlier age.
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JustPlay said:There is some truth to some of your statements, but there is no need to begrudge this young mans victory. .
JP,
I didn't mean to in any way disparage Wu, I'm sure he is a fine player. The point (as always) is that 9-ball is a TERRIBLE way to try to differentiate top professional players - it is not a true "championship test". JMO
SplicedPoints said:I would disagree with the state ment that the 'wunderkinds' in tennis are made by the advances in equipment. Most of the 'wunderkinds' (the ones winning major tournaments at around 17) are female players. This is because the female game isn't relied so much on the power of the players.
The racquets of today are much easier to play with than the wooden racquets of 30 years ago. However, The generation of players today have better coaching are support systems. They are stronger because of the advances in muscle training techniques and better diet. They put in lots of hard work and are all tremendously talented. Those are the reasons why the current generation of tennis players can succeed at an earlier age.
SP,
I think that tennis academies for kids definitely add to their chance of success, but the racquets are ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY ESSENTIAL for any 12 year old to compete with the physically mature professional players - male and female - power is everything in modern tennis, and it can't be obtained by skinny kids with old equipment. Until the advent of the Wilson T-2000 these kids were NOT able to compete on equal footing with the pro's (with tremendous strides since then). Tennis (power tennis that is) is too easy with modern racquets; but of course still requires time and dedication.
In any case, no such equipment exists for pool players; my point was only that 9-ball is too easy for top players and is no way to try to differentiate champion caliber players.
Signed,
Old, washed up, tennis academy kid.