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This old Meucci Originals cue is a good player and not been refinished, I like it. The buttcap is damaged but the Meucci Originals logo is intact. My question is: can the original buttcap be matched with a repair without replacing the entire buttcap itself? It's not an expensive cue,I know. That's why I'd like to get it fixed with the lowest cost. Replacing the bottom part below the logo seems to be the result I'm looking for. I am no cueman that's why I ask folks. Thanks!View attachment 822221
 

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Jimmy_Betmore said:
You're more likely to get good responses if you post this in the Ask a Cuemaker section of these forums. I'd also consider reaching out to Meucci to see what kind of response you get.
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Yes,I was going to post it on the ask the cuemaker forum but couldn't find it! Haven't been on in awhile so thanks for the help!
 
outrider1 said:
This old Meucci Originals cue is a good player and not been refinished, I like it. The buttcap is damaged but the Meucci Originals logo is intact. My question is: can the original buttcap be matched with a repair without replacing the entire buttcap itself? It's not an expensive cue,I know. That's why I'd like to get it fixed with the lowest cost. Replacing the bottom part below the logo seems to be the result I'm looking for. I am no cueman that's why I ask folks. Thanks!View attachment 822221
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If the damage doesn't extend above the height of the MO logo anywhere on the diameter, it is possible that a cut could be made in the remaining butt material and a ring added below, keeping a core of the original buttcap. Might even do the checker patter to camouflage the repair line.

I sit here thinking of three things seeing this cue; two songs and a japanese aesthetic.

First song, 'Don't Be Ashamed of Your Age', I don't even know who the original artist was, there are tons of renditions, I'm most familiar with the Jerry Lee Lewis version from his, 'Last Man Standing' album. It contains the line, 'Don't mind the gray in your hair, just remember the fun you've had puttin' it there'.

Second is the John Prine song, 'Things That Work', the chorus is,

Stuff that works, stuff that holds up
The kind of stuff you don't hang on the wall
Stuff that's real, stuff you feel
The kind of stuff you reach for when you fall

Finally, the concept of wabi-sabi, basically saying that imperfections can add to beauty.

To be clear, it is not a horribly expensive or rare cue. You like it. It has patina. It has war stories and scars to prove it. Maybe just love it for what it is.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
If the damage doesn't extend above the height of the MO logo anywhere on the diameter, it is possible that a cut could be made in the remaining butt material and a ring added below, keeping a core of the original buttcap. Might even do the checker patter to camouflage the repair line.

I sit here thinking of three things seeing this cue; two songs and a japanese aesthetic.

First song, 'Don't Be Ashamed of Your Age', I don't even know who the original artist was, there are tons of renditions, I'm most familiar with the Jerry Lee Lewis version from his, 'Last Man Standing' album. It contains the line, 'Don't mind the gray in your hair, just remember the fun you've had puttin' it there'.

Second is the John Prine song, 'Things That Work', the chorus is,

Stuff that works, stuff that holds up
The kind of stuff you don't hang on the wall
Stuff that's real, stuff you feel
The kind of stuff you reach for when you fall

Finally, the concept of wabi-sabi, basically saying that imperfections can add to beauty.

To be clear, it is not a horribly expensive or rare cue. You like it. It has patina. It has war stories and scars to prove it. Maybe just love it for what it is.
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Cool response. And I completely agree. I hadn't thought about it in a while but it reminded me of the Japanese tradition of Kintsugi which, for those who might now know, highlights repairs to some everyday objects. There's a beauty to it much like there's a beauty that many of us see in cues with battle scars. I mean, we all love a beautiful cue fresh off the lathe. But there's something real and satisfying about holding a cue with a blue stained shaft, finish dings, and a worn wrap with a cigar stench. That wear... Those "imperfections"... They tell a story that we might know or we might only be able to imagine.
 
outrider1 said:
This old Meucci Originals cue is a good player and not been refinished, I like it. The buttcap is damaged but the Meucci Originals logo is intact. My question is: can the original buttcap be matched with a repair without replacing the entire buttcap itself? It's not an expensive cue,I know. That's why I'd like to get it fixed with the lowest cost. Replacing the bottom part below the logo seems to be the result I'm looking for. I am no cueman that's why I ask folks. Thanks!View attachment 822221
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I did this one recently. There was just enough to preserve the logo.

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DeeDeeCues said:
If the damage doesn't extend above the height of the MO logo anywhere on the diameter, it is possible that a cut could be made in the remaining butt material and a ring added below, keeping a core of the original buttcap. Might even do the checker patter to camouflage the repair line.

I sit here thinking of three things seeing this cue; two songs and a japanese aesthetic.

First song, 'Don't Be Ashamed of Your Age', I don't even know who the original artist was, there are tons of renditions, I'm most familiar with the Jerry Lee Lewis version from his, 'Last Man Standing' album. It contains the line, 'Don't mind the gray in your hair, just remember the fun you've had puttin' it there'.

Second is the John Prine song, 'Things That Work', the chorus is,

Stuff that works, stuff that holds up
The kind of stuff you don't hang on the wall
Stuff that's real, stuff you feel
The kind of stuff you reach for when you fall

Finally, the concept of wabi-sabi, basically saying that imperfections can add to beauty.

To be clear, it is not a horribly expensive or rare cue. You like it. It has patina. It has war stories and scars to prove it. Maybe just love it for what it is.
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People pay a fortune for “relic’d” guitars. Real patina is highly sought after.

Been happening in the classic car industry for little while too.

Strangely has not made its way into the cue world.
 
Bishop said:
People pay a fortune for “relic’d” guitars. Real patina is highly sought after.

Been happening in the classic car industry for little while too.

Strangely has not made its way into the cue world.
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That's an interesting observation as it relates to some of the older cars, where some are paying major bucks to have the body look as though it were just plucked out of a field behind some old farmhouse. Under the exterior though is all business.
Could the new trend in cues just be old wore out look of a long ago cue, but the playability of current tec hidden under the skin?
 
muskyed said:
That's an interesting observation as it relates to some of the older cars, where some are paying major bucks to have the body look as though it were just plucked out of a field behind some old farmhouse. Under the exterior though is all business.
Could the new trend in cues just be old wore out look of a long ago cue, but the playability of current tec hidden under the skin?
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I don’t mind a house cue or worn look. Honestly I’ve never been motivated to refinish a cue unless there’s significant damage or something that would impede playability.

I’ve seen patina vehicles with gloss clear over the patina. Honestly I hate that look.

At least make it a matte clear so it doesn’t look like an encapsulated turd.
 
it looks great. I would have made sure the original bumper would be a proper fit even if it took awhile to find one. I have no idea if that is the case or not, but the bumper looks odd and if an original would not easily take its place then I would want that changed to the original diameter.
You are doing really good things and I congratulate you for that!
 
jayman said:
it looks great. I would have made sure the original bumper would be a proper fit even if it took awhile to find one. I have no idea if that is the case or not, but the bumper looks odd and if an original would not easily take its place then I would want that changed to the original diameter.
You are doing really good things and I congratulate you for that!
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jayman said:
it looks great. I would have made sure the original bumper would be a proper fit even if it took awhile to find one. I have no idea if that is the case or not, but the bumper looks odd and if an original would not easily take its place then I would want that changed to the original diameter.
You are doing really good things and I congratulate you for that!
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Jayman, the original bumper is the pill type bumper,I have a couple and the diameter is the same. It needs a wide section added IMO.
 
I like the repair. I would not have been surprised to see some people forget to provide the tenon on the connection. I have had some High end cues that relied upon the weight bolt to both center and hold the butt cap in place with a flat faced surface. Not kidding! You seem to think things out before you take action. You rock!
 
SSDiver2112 said:
Because no glue or finish was involved. I used Delrin for this one. I normally use phenolic for most of my butt caps. Tomahawk is good for white or black as well.
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Where do you buy your materials. Pm if you like.
 
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