warm-up???

vapoolplayer said:
larry (not fast larry people, a local player we know) would be considered a medium to strong speed shortstop.

he's good enough to beat most anyone he plays, but a good road player of pro will eat him for breakfast. thats basically a shortstop, its an in between player.

VAP

ahh that clears up things...so where does that leave, you, cj, wayne, jordan? all shortstops?
 
BigLip said:
ahh that clears up things...so where does that leave, you, cj, wayne, jordan? all shortstops?

jordan might be considered a shortstop if he's playing good......the rest of us would be medium to strong A players. of course i'm the weakest one in that group.........and the one with the least amount of experience.

VAP
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I see Tony at the poolroom daily and can assure you, he's hitting balls routinely. He may not be focusing on his own game but he's indirectly staying in tune. Honestly, he's one of the only people in the world who appears to be in dead gear ALL THE TIME. He may not consider what he's doing as "practice" but he's not absent.

Hey Jude,

I know cheffjeff just posted it but didn't you say something about hitting balls hard for a while and not worrying about whether or not they fall. If that was you I have to say thanks because it has really helped me find my stroke quicker than I used to. Sometimes in the APA you really need to find it quick with all these one table bars we seem to get stuck in.

Regards,
Koop
 
DDKoop said:
Hey Jude,

I know cheffjeff just posted it but didn't you say something about hitting balls hard for a while and not worrying about whether or not they fall. If that was you I have to say thanks because it has really helped me find my stroke quicker than I used to. Sometimes in the APA you really need to find it quick with all these one table bars we seem to get stuck in.

Regards,
Koop

hey it does help...i tried it too...i put them close enough where they were going in tho. it cut my warm up time down quite a bit...i dunno why i didnt think of it before :o
 
DDKoop said:
Hey Jude,

I know cheffjeff just posted it but didn't you say something about hitting balls hard for a while and not worrying about whether or not they fall. If that was you I have to say thanks because it has really helped me find my stroke quicker than I used to. Sometimes in the APA you really need to find it quick with all these one table bars we seem to get stuck in.

Regards,
Koop

That's what one of my teachers told me. I was warming up by doing long straight in shots and he said to just throw the balls out and start hitting some shots in hard. let my stroke out a little. Start with easy shots, and then start fine tuning with tougher shots and more precise cue ball action.

George Fels in one of his books suggested shooting a few in with your off hand and possibly setting up a semicircle around the side pocket and using short draw to make them all in succession.

Bert Kinister has a shot #1 in the 60 minute workout where the cue ball replaces the object ball with a very little bit of follow on a straight in shot.

I do a bit of all these things. Maybe start with some long straight ins and then long cuts like if yo were behind the rack in straight pool and were left a cut along or near the rail.
 
What I do ...

I never warm up most of the time. If you know how to make balls, you know
how, and you aren't going to 'learn' 15 minutes before a match. BUT, if I have
a real tough match for my first match in a tournament, I practice 'bank' shots
to be sure I am tuned up for banking on that table.

If you are an experienced player, and have good stroke mechanics, then the
only reason someone takes a long time to warm up is because their 'mind' is
not right. I have always believed in the 'mind, body, and spirit' thing, and
if your mind is not ready to win, you won't, simple as that.

Rather than just banging balls around or shooting shots on the table that I almost never miss, I sit on the sidelines getting my mind ready for the upcoming matches, and at the same time I rather observe and size up my possible opponents. This way, I am ready mentally to play my best in upcoming matches. Works for me ...
 
DDKoop said:
Hey Jude,

I know cheffjeff just posted it but didn't you say something about hitting balls hard for a while and not worrying about whether or not they fall. If that was you I have to say thanks because it has really helped me find my stroke quicker than I used to. Sometimes in the APA you really need to find it quick with all these one table bars we seem to get stuck in.

Regards,
Koop


Yes and I'm glad to hear that. I really think the essence behind getting in gear is about feel much more than results. I actually had a set yesterday where I wasn't playing well. I started just trying to find my rhythm and BAM, I was back in gear. It's all muscle memory. Sometimes you forget and by focusing on a good hit, you can quickly remind yourself what it is you do right.
 
Snapshot9 said:
I never warm up most of the time. If you know how to make balls, you know
how, and you aren't going to 'learn' 15 minutes before a match. BUT, if I have
a real tough match for my first match in a tournament, I practice 'bank' shots
to be sure I am tuned up for banking on that table.

If you are an experienced player, and have good stroke mechanics, then the
only reason someone takes a long time to warm up is because their 'mind' is
not right. I have always believed in the 'mind, body, and spirit' thing, and
if your mind is not ready to win, you won't, simple as that.

Rather than just banging balls around or shooting shots on the table that I almost never miss, I sit on the sidelines getting my mind ready for the upcoming matches, and at the same time I rather observe and size up my possible opponents. This way, I am ready mentally to play my best in upcoming matches. Works for me ...

somehow i think im not getting out what i mean to say...but i do understand what you are saying too...but it's like a relief pitcher coming in in the 7th inning...he doesnt just pop up on the mound and start throwing but he's been throwing all his life..he's just getting WARM...that's the feeling im used to...
it's like ok if he didnt warm up shit he still can throw hard and he still knows HOW to throw but he aint gonna hit the corners like he should/could...
but yeah i see what you are saying too...my mind is always clear b/c i just aint smart enough for it not to be :confused: :p
 
that means ...

If you're mind is always clear because you not smart enough for it to not be then that is a personal problem, I guess, kind of like God watching over
drunks and fools because they don't know any better ... lol

or you simply don't think enough about what you are doing ....

You are not going to shoot 90 mph shots ... and why should you sit there
and shoot straight in shots, or slight cuts when you know you can make them
every damn time. Granted, a few warm up strokes is okay, but what I am
saying, if it takes you longer than 4-5 minutes to warm up, and you are a
seasoned player, it is because your mind or your body is not ready. I prepare
my mind mostly, and if my body is out of whack, I do a few stretching
exercises. But for a player to start out at a rating of 20 on a 1-100 scale,
and 2 hours later is a 80-90 is bullshit, IMO, unless you are experiencing problems mentally or you have an inner ear infection.

By the way, i can still lay my palms on the floor with my legs straight at 57.
I have seen many a player break down after hours of playing because they
were not in shape physically.
 
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Jude Rosenstock said:
Yes and I'm glad to hear that. I really think the essence behind getting in gear is about feel much more than results. I actually had a set yesterday where I wasn't playing well. I started just trying to find my rhythm and BAM, I was back in gear. It's all muscle memory. Sometimes you forget and by focusing on a good hit, you can quickly remind yourself what it is you do right.

You got that right Jude and thank you. It really has helped me when time is of the essence.

Regards,
Koop
 
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