whats the best way to fix a warp? ive seen that jacoby thing, but it looks rough on the wood, any other techniques??
warped shaft, how to fix it??
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What he said... wood can be manipulated to be straight, but only for a short time, as wood goes where it feels happy, not where we feel happy
IMHO, if anyone says different, they're a snake oil salesman.
Dave
Ok, here we go let me get my oil out.... Well I have been somewhat successful with a technique of stressing the woods fibers in the opposite direction as the warp... Yep just another way to describe BENDING the shaft. Now I know this may sound crazy and a bit scary and risky but if the warp is not too bad I have laid the shaft on the table and rolled it till the most light shows under the shaft. At that point I press down on the shaft about 12 inches or so from the tip and lift the collar end up about and inch and a half off the table and hold for about 30 seconds THEN without lowering lift about another half inch more and hold for another 30 seconds. Sometimes it takes a couple times but I usually can get a shaft to roll pretty much perfect. I may have to repeat this a few times stretched over a month or so but the shafts that I have done have stayed straight longer than a year.
The only way I can guess why this may work is the bending may be stressing the wood in the opposite direction more than the wood wants to move the other way... I dunno, it seems to work
....................................DISCLAIMER.........................................................
The above procedure is not meant to fix or remedy woods natural movement so I am not responsible for anyone attempting this. You do as you will at your own risk..... Ah I feel better
If the shaft warped due to a change in humidity, you may want to replicate the climate of the first place. If it straightens, seal it. If not, oh well.
They can be straightened. I have had approx. 10 straightened in the last couple of years & they are all still straight. Turned them from unusable to shafts I would play with.
Hadn't used it but lots of happy people here.....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=312321&highlight=jacoby+tool
Hadn't used it but lots of happy people here.....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=312321&highlight=jacoby+tool
RBC
Deceased
The first thing you have to know is whether your shaft is warped or bent.
They are not the same thing, although they look identical. You can't really tell if a crooked is warped or bent. They're both crooked, they just got there a different way. For years, we've called all crooked shafts warped, but that certainly isn't always true.
A "warped" shaft is one that is finding it's happy place, and that place is somewhere other than straight. You can straighten a "warped" shaft, but it will always return to it's happy place.
Wood does not have perfect "memory". Meaning that you can bend it and it won't spring all the way back. It will go at least most of the way back over time, but it can take weeks or longer depending on the environmental conditions.
So, a "bent" shaft can be straightened and pretty much stay that way. It's not likely that you will get it perfect, but you can get it close.
A cue shaft will find it's happy place usually within a couple of months after it was last cut. If it gets past that stage and is still straight, then it will most likely stay that way unless it encounters a significant change in it's environment, or it gets bent. In my experience, a shaft that moves because of an environmental change will usually go back. If not within a few or more weeks, then certainly after the environment gets back to normal. Extreme heat or humidity changes can put a cue shaft beyond ever coming back though.
So how do you know if it's warped or bent? That's a tough question to answer. If your shaft was straight and stayed that way for more than a few months after it was new, but now is not straight, and it's been that way for more than a week or two, then it was most likely bent. If your cue shaft experienced an environmental extreme, then most likely it's damaged and would need to be replaced.
Wood is a magical material and we all love how it feels and how it plays. But, along with that we have to accept that it's an organic material and can have it's own mind. As cuemakers, we can control our processes to reduce, as much as possible, the chance that a cue shaft will not stay straight, but we can't control the organic material.
If you think your shaft may have gotten bent, then try to straighten it. If not, then get a new one. There's no magic here.
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
They are not the same thing, although they look identical. You can't really tell if a crooked is warped or bent. They're both crooked, they just got there a different way. For years, we've called all crooked shafts warped, but that certainly isn't always true.
A "warped" shaft is one that is finding it's happy place, and that place is somewhere other than straight. You can straighten a "warped" shaft, but it will always return to it's happy place.
Wood does not have perfect "memory". Meaning that you can bend it and it won't spring all the way back. It will go at least most of the way back over time, but it can take weeks or longer depending on the environmental conditions.
So, a "bent" shaft can be straightened and pretty much stay that way. It's not likely that you will get it perfect, but you can get it close.
A cue shaft will find it's happy place usually within a couple of months after it was last cut. If it gets past that stage and is still straight, then it will most likely stay that way unless it encounters a significant change in it's environment, or it gets bent. In my experience, a shaft that moves because of an environmental change will usually go back. If not within a few or more weeks, then certainly after the environment gets back to normal. Extreme heat or humidity changes can put a cue shaft beyond ever coming back though.
So how do you know if it's warped or bent? That's a tough question to answer. If your shaft was straight and stayed that way for more than a few months after it was new, but now is not straight, and it's been that way for more than a week or two, then it was most likely bent. If your cue shaft experienced an environmental extreme, then most likely it's damaged and would need to be replaced.
Wood is a magical material and we all love how it feels and how it plays. But, along with that we have to accept that it's an organic material and can have it's own mind. As cuemakers, we can control our processes to reduce, as much as possible, the chance that a cue shaft will not stay straight, but we can't control the organic material.
If you think your shaft may have gotten bent, then try to straighten it. If not, then get a new one. There's no magic here.
Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
My version of the Shaft straightener.........
Hi, shamadam,
I know this thread is more than 9 years old, but do you still have this shaft adjusting tool?
Roger