warped slate?

[akadansmith]

i have a 7 foot valley bar box. table is completely level. when i slow roll a ball to the corner pockets they seem to roll away from pocket is this from a slate thats warped or could it be from the felt bunched up under pocket? any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[PracticeChampion]

i have a 7 foot valley bar box. table is completely level. when i slow roll a ball to the corner pockets they seem to roll away from pocket is this from a slate thats warped or could it be from the felt bunched up under pocket? any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm going with the clothe. Never seen a rock warp

 

[BuddyWing]

Slate is flexible ...

 

[PracticeChampion]

Slate is flexible ...

Fair enough but flex and a permanent warp is different.
I've never studied slate so I guess anything is possible I reckon but I've improperly stretched clothe and that exact thing will happen and makes it impossible to shoot a ball down the rail

 

[garczar]

valleys often do that. thin slate warps pretty easy.

 

[BuddyWing]

I have never heard of Slate warping . I think something is under the slate and causing the roll off.

 

[akadansmith]

Fair enough but flex and a permanent warp is different.
I've never studied slate so I guess anything is possible I reckon but I've improperly stretched clothe and that exact thing will happen and makes it impossible to shoot a ball down the rail

i had a professional company install the felt

 

[Biloxi Boy]

Call the professional company?

 

[CuesDirectly]

I have never heard of Slate warping .

Yes you have, Garczar just told you so and he is correct.

 

[garczar]

valleys often do that. thin slate warps pretty easy.

 

[BuddyWing]

I guess warping and flexing are two different things to me ..

 

[garczar]

I guess warping and flexing are two different things to me ..

slate is softer than a lot think. it does move and if unsupported will sag/warp. that's why RKC came with his mod. for GC 3-4's that have unsupported end sills.

 

[SBC]

Slate is flexible ...

Especially barbox 5/8 one piece slate.
Need a machinist level, might need to shim between n frame and slate...can use billiards cloth.

 

[gregcantrall]

Ah the valley roll is due to the lack of support. Well proper support, nothing in the middle so the tables become sway backed.
Glen helped me with my understanding of slate and the flex. And how to deal with the problem.

 

[CuesDirectly]

I guess warping and flexing are two different things to me ..

Let's say that you and Rosie O'donnell went on a date, you got back to your house and she jumps on your table. It will FLEX, if she quickly gets off, it will flex right back.

Now let's say that she decides that she loves your balls and starts playing with all 16 of them until she passes out. You find her the next morning, still in the center of the table.

That FLEX would have set in long enough to become permanent, and now you can say it's WARPED.

Same thing with a shaft, bend it and it will bend right back. Keep it in the bent position for a few weeks and you will have a warped shaft.

 

[garczar]

Ah the valley roll is due to the lack of support. Well proper support, nothing in the middle so the tables become sway backed.
Glen helped me with my understanding of slate and the flex. And how to deal with the problem.

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[garczar]

Let's say that you and Rosie O'donnell went on a date, you got back to your house and she jumps on your table. It will FLEX, if she quickly gets off, it will flex right back.

Now let's say that she decides that she loves your balls and starts playing with all 16 of them until she passes out. You find her the next morning, still in the center of the table.

That FLEX would have set in long enough to become permanent, and now you can say it's WARPED.

Same thing with a shaft, bend it and it will bend right back. Keep it in the bent position for a few weeks and you will have a warped shaft.

Post of the Year worthy shit right there.

 

[middleofnowhere]

i have a 7 foot valley bar box. table is completely level. when i slow roll a ball to the corner pockets they seem to roll away from pocket is this from a slate thats warped or could it be from the felt bunched up under pocket? any help would be greatly appreciated.

Did it not used to do this? Did something change?

 

[JusticeNJ]

Swayback slate is a thing. Sucks.

 

[garczar]

A lot of times its just glue build up. Get the slate CLEAN and install. If still off you can shim/brace it some.