Was Mosconi's 526 high run shot on an 8' table?
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Slim J said:
And an easy table too, apparently.
Kelly_Guy said:
I have read the original local press clipping, that covered the match, in Springfield, OH. Mosconi did play on an 8' table. He did not 'miss' after pocketing 526 balls in 14.1...he merely elected to "quit" and go eat dinner, after shooting in balls for nearly 5 hours.
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Scott Lee said:
The table size seems to be true. But Mosconi states himself in his Autobiographie that he missed a thin cut into the side pocket!
I get the impression its been beaten more than once on 9' equipment just not with enough of an audience or the press.
I have been told more than once by different people who were regulars at a room in Buffalo where Art 'Babe' Cranfield played, that he ran over 600 a number of times on 9' tables. One said he ran over 700 but wasn't sure if anyone was there from begining to end. Could be a tall tale but who knows.
I have been told more than once by different people who were regulars at a room in Buffalo where Art 'Babe' Cranfield played, that he ran over 600 a number of times on 9' tables. One said he ran over 700 but wasn't sure if anyone was there from begining to end. Could be a tall tale but who knows.
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I ran 1000 one time but there was no one there to see it! lol
crzygirl19 said:
Regardless, the press clipping states that Mosconi "quit in the beginning of the last rack shortly after pocketing the break shot, and after running 526 consecutive balls, over a period of nearly five hours at the table". He then went out to dinner with the room owner, and a few others. Whether he missed on purpose or not (nobody's alive who was there), it's an amazing feat. The press clipping seemed to indicate that Mosconi, who was tired (go figure!
), declined to keep playing.Scott Lee
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And of course we always believe the press and what they say over Mosconi himself!
There's a signed affidavit from those who were present for Mosconi's run...I don't remember, but I think I pulled this off of Bob Jewett's site:
http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/archives/images/d9744-4.jpg
http://www.americanhistory.si.edu/archives/images/d9744-4.jpg
46 by 92 pro 8 table I am told.
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Scott Lee said:
Why Mr. Lee, the video tape I have Mr. Mosconi did states by him it took 2 l/2 hrs, not 5.
It was an 8' table with 5 l/2" pockets, total buckets and there were strong rumors during the runs once or twice he shot a ball in a pocket and it came back out and he kept on playing. He ended on a miss, not because he was hungry. He rarely got hungry, he preferred drinking wine and getting blitzed on speed, cigs and coffee. The entire thing is totally suspect.
Given the number of times Mosconi ran 125 or 150 and out in competition, why is it so hard to believe that he ran 526 in an exhibition? And in case you think he did it because the table was easy, he ran over 300 multiple times on a 5' x 10' table (as did Irving Crane and probably others). As for the statement that "he preferred drinking wine and getting blitzed on speed, cigs and coffee", it's true that he loved his coffee and cigs before his stroke in 1956, after which he gave them up. But I've never heard that he had a drinking or "speed" problem. Are you thinking of Ralph Greenleaf?yaffabernstein said:
I believe Larry beat it with a Meucci.Jimmy M. said:
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JoeyInCali said:
No, Larry dumped his PP-4 and is back playing with a 11mm Bushka. His high run is a limp 274.
Greenleaf had the high run on the at 279, in l939 Crane went 309, then Mosconi did 365 in the 40's but they were all on 9' tables. I believe the high run on a 10 was procita and 185.
I heard it was on an 8 ft. I did hear that on two occasions during the run he was left without a shot, so without calling anything blasted open the remaining stack. On both occasions a ball fell and he kept going as if he intended the ball to fall. Who the heck knows. All we know is....that man ran alot of balls!