washing your Simonis 860?

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washing your Simonis 860?

Hey Billiard pros...

Everytime I play in a hall I find that the cloth plays soooo fast.
In that i usually overhit allot of shots.

And secondly ever since i picked up a jump cue my simonis is getting burn marks all over, I even place a extra small piece of cloth down under the cue ball for jumping on my table. But still getting the burn marks that look like cigarette burns.

My question is: Will washing the cloth help either affect the speed of the table? Would is play slightly faster?

And will washing the cloth help appearance of table with all the burn marks?
 
The marks may not ever come out. Practice you're jump shots the same place everyone else does :)

When you clean, vacum, or brush a table. Do it in only one direction, from the head(break) rail to the foot rail.

Vacum the table, then wipe the cloth with a damp rag, and then you can use a cleaner like http://quick-clean.com/ if it is really dirty. I don't believe a home table would get that bad though. Unless you let people use talc, talc is prob. the worst enemy of a table and has no use in a pool room. Talc is fine enough to pass through the cloth and build up deposits. These turn into the small wobbling back and forth rolls you see on tables. At home make people wash their hands before playing. It does extend cloth life.

Good Luck
 
cleaning 860

Simonis 860 is uni-directional .. you can brush it in any direction you wish .. it is also wool and after numerous poolrooms I have owned and operated .. I find using Woolite .. yes Woolite .. cleans the cloth to near-new condition .. takes out most of the "smash" jump marks .. just follow the directions for use of Woolite .. vacuum often as talc, dust, cue chalk etc. will work its way through the separation in cloth fiber(s) and mix with natural oils from hand, etc. and cause build-up on the slate(s). Suggestion: never allow baby powder to be used as it is loaded with oils and causes cloth/build-up problems .. whereas talc designed for billiards is "dry" and devoid of the "bad for cloth" oils present with baby powder.
John McChesney
Texas Express
 
John,

Very informative post! Thanks for all the info. I worked in a small pool hall a few hours a week just to be able to play for free. We didn't let anyone use baby powder and I didn't know why until now.
 
I think with all the burn marks with the Simonis that I might go to the Tournament 30/30 cloth next time.
 
Pool hall tables are faster than home tables due to the AC and lack of humidity inside the hall.
Unless you close all windows and doors in your house and turn the heater or ac on, you will never be close to the ph's cloth speed. A heater under the table would be great but that's expensive.
 
Joseph Cues,
I must dis-agree with using a heater under the table. This is wrong. It will apply heat all over the main base, and not on the slates as needed. Maybe, sir, your trying to say, "heated" slates. A heater will dry out the wood frame, cause it to twist, move and check[crack]...

Heated slates will only heat up the slates, and make it more uniform throughout the playing area. Heating slates is fairly easy.The heating elements are strips of a special heating element that glues to the slates, and or sometimes layes under them. By doing this the heat is even throughout. As far as expence, the heaters use less a lot than a heated blanket.
blud
 
just replace the cloth if you dont want its speed...:D
of course the rails play a large part of the speed of the ball especially when it bounces back.
 
Washing the cloth wont hurt it, but the Woolite might. The problem with washing the cloth is that it frays the edges. As for the heaters................don't for get about the bees wax on the joints. It melts the wax and will bleed thru the cloth.
 
The heat caused by the strip heater "WILL NOT" melt the wax or hurt the joint compounds. The heat is warm to the touch....I have been involved with heated tables for over 35 years, yet to see any bleed through by wax or damage to the joint compounds.
blud
 
I see no other course than to just ignore and go back to work helping others play better. <---FL

That will be a great thing for all...leave emotions out of it...emotions have no place at the table anyway. Stone Cold.

Good to see you back.
 
In all that time Blud you never seen wax bleed thru the cloth???? BONDO!.........If you don't plan on moving it it's great. As long as you know how to use bondo.......and put a real thin coat. And not sand the hell out of the slates in the process. I saw some tables a guy used a belt sander to smooth down the bondo he piled on the joint.
 
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