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[Island Drive]

I have a near duplicate business model as the WPT (worldpokertour.com) concept yet with pool. The domain name WBT (worldbilliardtour.com) will be utilized. If there's anyone or if you know of someone....that might have interest in helping developing this, with annual membership, all website driven, PM me. I'm not looking for money, just want to do a live demo....I will come to you. My target market is Homeowners, with one pool table, any size, anywhere in the world to qualify, for the WBT Final Table Event or use a pool room or bar. The WBT has NO league operators, and has Player Group payouts after each hour and a half Group qualifying session. After working at the BCA when it moved to Colorado Springs I learned, over 95% of all billiard products are sold to homeowners and play has NEVER been targeted at them, but poker did. I"ve already held 17 hrs of competitions. This business model is Totally different, and its unexplainable on Paper. Like a great song with great words, it can only be TRULY appreciated, when its PLAYED, then your able to feel, hear, and see the true feral sounds of play, fun and friendships and people working together during play. I have access to e mail lists of homeowners with pool tables.

 

[macguy]

I have a near duplicate business model as the WPT (worldpokertour.com) concept yet with pool. The domain name WBT (worldbilliardtour.com) will be utilized. If there's anyone or if you know of someone....that might have interest in helping developing this, with annual membership, all website driven, PM me. I'm not looking money, just want to do a live demo....I will come to you. My target market is Homeowners, with one pool table, any size, anywhere in the world to qualify, for the WBT Final Table Event or use a pool room or bar. The WBT has NO league operators, and has Player Group payouts after each hour and a half Group qualifying session. After working at the BCA when it moved to Colorado Springs I learned, over 95% of all billiard products are sold to homeowners and play has NEVER been targeted at them, but poker did. I"ve already held 17 hrs of competitions. This business model is Totally different, and its unexplainable on Paper. Like a great song with great words, it can only be TRULY appreciated, when its PLAYED, then your able to feel, hear, and see the true feral sounds of play, fun and friendships and people working together during play. I have access to e mail lists of homeowners with pool tables.

Can you elaborate at least a little on your idea?

 

[GreenFeltguy]

Wow, interesting

I owned a pool room in New Orleans with 27 tables for 6 years and I'm shocked to hear that 95% of sales is to home owners, thanks for bringing this out !

 

[Island Drive]

Can you elaborate at least a little on your idea?

The strength of our game is not the game itself, or that special shot (to VERY few that is), but everything else that goes on during and around play. I've tapped into all these aspects. I removed everything I dislike about competitive pool, and reinserted everything GOOD and tested it, with NO Expectations. My concerns for play ranged from family needs, church on Sundays, hotels, travel costs, pool rooms regular customer needs, cost vs payback, and Large Payouts at the Final Table Event.

The WBT is the music of our sport, and can only be heard and felt when Played.
Its like comparing the difference in attitudes between kids in class, or kids from that class on the playground, the Sounds are Completely different.

 

[OnePocketBull]

Hey there, I have been doing software and website work for a great many years. I have been playing pool for close to 40 years and your idea is very intriguing. I would love to learn more and potentially help with this.

 

[CreeDo]

My understanding of the WPT is... they hold a series of poker tournaments and televise them,
and they get sponsored by casinos and gambling sites.

Is what you're doing pool tournaments? You mentioned homeowners with pool tables, are these
events to be held in people's homes? You mentioned there are no league operators, does that mean
this is similar to a league? You mentioned how billiard products are sold, are you selling billiard products?

It's not very clear from your post what your business does exactly, and to be honest
saying stuff like "It's unexplainable on paper" will make investors want to bolt.
All successful business ideas can be explained on paper pretty easily.

Are you being cagey because you don't want people stealing your idea?

 

[Island Drive]

My understanding of the WPT is... they hold a series of poker tournaments and televise them,
and they get sponsored by casinos and gambling sites.

Is what you're doing pool tournaments? NOPE ONLY FINAL TABLE EVENTS
You mentioned homeowners with pool tables, are these
events to be held in people's homes YES....AND ROOM AND BARS ARE JUST FINE?
You mentioned there are no league operators, does that mean
this is similar to a league? YES, BUT WITHOUT TEAMS.

You mentioned how billiard products are sold, are you selling billiard products NO, JUST ADVERTISING.

It's not very clear from your post what your business does exactly, and to be honest
saying stuff like "It's unexplainable on paper" will make investors want to bolt.

All successful business ideas can be explained on paper pretty easily. YOUR RIGHT, BUT HOW DO YOU SHOW EMOTION, FRIENDSHIPS BEING FORMED, PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER ON PAPER ?

Are you being cagey because you don't want people stealing your idea?

No, no cagy going on, I own the copy rights and the domain name, that works for me.

Here's a comparison;

During the Apartheid days of S. Africa mid 80's, Paul Simon wrote a GREAT song called Graceland....But until it was heard and played in a Group, no one could of guessed its impact. The WBT is the same, but ya gotta play it to see/feel/hear the relationships and the sounds we love to hear at a pool room.

Creedo
Have you ever purchased a new car just because of the brochure and Never drove it before the purchase?

 

[MoneyBox]

So the plan is to only televise what you are calling "Final Table Events". That would mean there needs to be some type of qualifying going on at people's homes are in random bars/pool rooms...as opposed to a sanctioned venue with referees and tournament directors.

If this is the case, how do you plan to govern this to prevent cheating?

Edit: I am also a web developer, but need to know some the logistics of this thing.

 

[Island Drive]

So the plan is to only televise what you are calling "Final Table Events". That would mean there needs to be some type of qualifying going on at people's homes are in random bars/pool rooms...as opposed to a sanctioned venue with referees and tournament directors.

If this is the case, how do you plan to govern this to prevent cheating?

Edit: I am also a web developer, but need to know some the logistics of this thing.

I'd prefer to do it all on line with the video part, but common sense and business needs will determine its evolution.

Yep, qualifying anywhere, anytime, on any size table. Final Table events are on bar boxes (LUCK). Its no different than a poker game with your buddies at his house or your house or Anywhere????

Cheating and sandbagging are not Very possible with this business model, since the foundation of the WBT is based upon creating competition along side with forcing all players to work together during play, the biz models focus is on, creating new relationships/friends. When's the last time you played a team at the Nationals and at the end of play, you knew every person by first name and became Good friends win some you Never Knew?

 

[CreeDo]

No, no cagy going on, I own the copy rights and the domain name, that works for me.

Here's a comparison;

During the Apartheid days of S. Africa mid 80's, Paul Simon wrote a GREAT song called Graceland....But until it was heard and played in a Group, no one could of guessed its impact. The WBT is the same, but ya gotta play it to see/feel/hear the relationships and the sounds we love to hear at a pool room.

Creedo
Have you ever purchased a new car just because of the brochure and Never drove it before the purchase?

I think my point was maybe lost.
I was looking for something like...

"I'm going to run 1 v 1 tournaments in player's homes and televise them with a focus on the
atmosphere and dialogue rather than the game, and then try to sell the videos to a major sponsor
so we can have a large cash prize for the final tournament at the end of the year."

I have no idea if that's what you plan on doing, but I'm forced to guess because
you aren't giving even a bare-bones outline of what you're doing and selling :/
You're not going to convince anyone to open up their homes to you,
if you keep being vague or speaking in riddles.

I don't have any ill will towards you and I'm not trying to be negative,
it's just that players are very leery of "just trust me and try it".

 

[Island Drive]

Group Play

I think my point was maybe lost.
I was looking for something like...

"I'm going to run 1 v 1 tournaments in player's homes and televise them with a focus on the
atmosphere and dialogue rather than the game, and then try to sell the videos to a major sponsor
so we can have a large cash prize for the final tournament at the end of the year."

I have no idea if that's what you plan on doing, but I'm forced to guess because
you aren't giving even a bare-bones outline of what you're doing and selling :/
You're not going to convince anyone to open up their homes to you,
if you keep being vague or speaking in riddles.

I don't have any ill will towards you and I'm not trying to be negative,
it's just that players are very leery of "just trust me and try it".

These are NOT tournaments, they are qualifiers for the final table event. 5 different player group sessions, about 1 1/2 hrs of play ea time.

I know how pool players think, act, feel, talk and always want it a certain way I was one of em traveling for years, but I also understand the human nature side of our game, no one has Ever gone after this most important aspect of the game first, then built a business model around it.

Greg Sullivan/Diamond gave me seed money to hold my first test event. Once the mini Final table event was completed, It took me two days to REALIZE what had taken place, why, because I'm a hard headed pool player that was born in the trenches of Johnston City days. Then I held three more to confirm what I had actually witnessed. When you can get a grandma (who can't run two balls) to play along with her daughter and then come back again with their granddaughter, you know something is going on waaaaaaaaaay different than normal.

At my first test event in Denver, I saw a Player Group of 5 ALL cheer the player who just won. That NEVER has happened in my life, the losers high fiving the guy who just advanced past his player group, but it happened.

If there is interest, I'll come visit and do a live demo. I expect nothing but your time, and a group player match....that only takes 1.5 to 2 hours. I learned years ago selling office copiers door to door the importance of a live demo, or a live test drive in a new car, nothing in writing will EVER give you the feedback or knowlege you seek.

 

[CreeDo]

I appreciate you clearing it up... I actually don't have any table at home but your idea sounds interesting, and I think you're right that people need to see the human part of the pool experience, the social stuff is totally lost in the matches between top pros we're used to seeing. I hope someone will take you up on the demo... best of luck sir.

 

[Island Drive]

I appreciate you clearing it up... I actually don't have any table at home but your idea sounds interesting, and I think you're right that people need to see the human part of the pool experience, the social stuff is totally lost in the matches between top pros we're used to seeing. I hope someone will take you up on the demo... best of luck sir.

Thank you. But you can utilize your local haunt or bar or pool room. You don't have to have a home table.

Throwin' this out on this website was NOT something I wanted to do but felt was necessary at this point in time. The WBT is the Chum, the end game play, the ''I can do that'' the feeling that if I woulda just not done this or that I could of changed matters. Its giving the beginners the pool/poker/pain aspects that all top players wade thru as they evolve. I've also got High Schools in mind next, and the pros Down The Line.

World Poker Tour broke down Most social barriers....of the way society perceives poker players/gamblers. The WBT will probably do the same thing.

 

[Island Drive]

I appreciate you clearing it up... I actually don't have any table at home but your idea sounds interesting, and I think you're right that people need to see the human part of the pool experience, the social stuff is totally lost in the matches between top pros we're used to seeing. I hope someone will take you up on the demo... best of luck sir.

World Poker Tour Changed Everything for poker.....................................

Bump....7-15-2014

Still looking....The business model is nearly identical to the World Poker tour with annual membership and a Final Table end of year event like the World Poker Tour Dot Com. The Player Groups create highly interactive Juvenile Behavior in All Adults by its design and at its foundation players will work together and fill in names and change Player order 3 times during Group qualifying play.

This is NOT a league and does not have league operators at all. All business will be driven to and thru the website.

I'm doing Only live Player Group Demos to those that have interest. I expect nothing, but your time to see it Live. I'm NOT selling the newest Widget. But your interest and work ethic and character must be intact.

You don't have to own a table to do this, you could choose to form a Player Group Anywhere on the planet....Player Groups must compete only 5 times. Also, your able to play Anywhere Anytime you choose on Any size table to qualify.

This business model does NOT utilize any of the traditional games (too tough), but uses all the traditional rules.

Interested or know of someone who might be? PM me....

I expect nothing but your time. A live Player Group demo takes about 1.5 hours, whether your a 4-5-6-7 or 8 Player Group doesn't matter. Each player in the Group Demo must bring One Dollar to participate.

Demo preferably on a bar table. The WBT....like the WPT....will have an annual Final Table Event.

 

[Island Drive]

Bump......................................