weight bolts in custom cues ?

[justabrake]

Joss and Meucci do the same thing and when you screw it way up inside it does feel different than when it's all the way at the end. It could be better or it might not be, but it does change the feel. You do have the option of screwing it in as far as you'd like.

I had a meucci and when I removed the weight bolt it was like having a complete different cue all together . when the bolt was removed it was more balanced , with it in it was back heavy somewhat, but what a complete difference when changed

 

[drivermaker]

I had a meucci and when I removed the weight bolt it was like having a complete different cue all together . when the bolt was removed it was more balanced , with it in it was back heavy somewhat, but what a complete difference when changed

Yeh, I've done the same thing and you can really alter the feel and balance.

The first time I did it, I also thought that I had an entirely different cue, so I didn't stop there. I bought about 10 weight bolts and hack sawed them down to all kinds of different weights, bought multiple shafts that were different weights, and ended up with about 30 different cues all for the price of one any time I wanted.

I don't know why more guys don't do that instead of actually buying 30 cues.

 

[dooziexx]

some folks make a mountain out of a moe hill. I have NOT BASHED any cuemakers. I simply made an honest statement how some guys do.I have heard several of them speak of it offen.
I never mentioned anyones name. I have more respect for them than that. Let them build whatever works for them.
blud

Go back and re-read your initial post again. Yes you didnt single out any particular cue maker or give any names. You pratically bashed all other cue makers that uses weight bolts in one statement.... There are tons of good cuemakers out there that uses weight bolts. What is the big deal?? Some choose to use it, some dont. Is it fair to say that cuemakers like yourself that uses CNC machines dont really care about the cues you make because you let some machine do the work instead of using your hands without the aid of a machine? And what makes you think that you are way better in your craft than others? Yeah you rank right up there with the big boys like Barry Szamboti, Joel Hercek, DPK, Gina, Schick etc... Keep on dreaming!!!!

 

[coastydad]

Go back and re-read your initial post again. Yes you didnt single out any particular cue maker or give any names. You pratically bashed all other cue makers that uses weight bolts in one statement.... There are tons of good cuemakers out there that uses weight bolts. What is the big deal?? Some choose to use it, some dont. Is it fair to say that cuemakers like yourself that uses CNC machines dont really care about the cues you make because you let some machine do the work instead of using your hands without the aid of a machine? And what makes you think that you are way better in your craft than others? Yeah you rank right up there with the big boys like Barry Szamboti, Joel Hercek, DPK, Gina, Schick etc... Keep on dreaming!!!!

ROTFLMFAO! Let the caca fly!

 

[CueHunter]

Just for info purposes...my Jerry McWorter does not have a weight bolt and I don't believe he uses them at all. I know that it limits me if I want to change the weight a little since there is no bolt. I don't think that I can put one in if I wanted...it is a little light at just a smidge over 18 oz. I got used to it though. If your stroke isn't straight with a very light cue...you will know it!

 

[pete lafond]

100% true. up the weight w/ a bolt and you might not even know it is the same cue. but that might be the goal...

I changed mine on my Schon. Plays better to my liking. I like an 18.5 oz playing cue.

 

[pete lafond]

You didn't bash (1) cuemaker....You bashed a whole group of cue makers with one swoop of your wood balanced cue......

What is the difference between a ivory or ebony inlay to weight a cue vs. a metal inlay??? ...

Isn't that all a weight bolt really is??....an inlay?

Remind me to never get in an argument with you. Great play on logic. As I said earlier in this post, I changed the weight on my Schon. I like a much lighter cue.

 

[BRKNRUN]

I changed mine on my Schon. Plays better to my liking. I like an 18.5 oz playing cue.

I tried to change my Schon...The lightest I could get it was 19.5.

I did find out that taking weight off the very butt end has almost double the effect of lightening a cue than removing weight from the middle section...

I believe it's a similar effect to holding a stick with all the weight at the very opposite end feels heavier than if it were moved closer to where you hold the stick...

I removed the rubber bumper on my Schon and it lowered the actual weight to 19.0 oz.....It played perfect that way.....Problem was there was not going to be any protection from a floor hit....(Not that I bang my cue)

I decided that since everyone in the world seems to have a Schon LTD of some kind these days, I would sell mine and get a cue that not many others have in my area and fit the specs I am looking for......

What surprises me...(well not it dosen't) is that there is not a "swing weight" standards for pool cues...

You can ask a Golfer what swing weight he prefers and will tell you, D-2 , D-4 etc. The "standard" for a Golf club is D-2 but some players will play around with the swing weight to get a better balance... I actually used a D-2 swing weight converted into a D-4 by using a lighter grip......There are "top" pros that get very specific on the set up of thier clubs...even down to the epoxy used in some cases.....

I think that someone with a very solid understanding of how to measure balancing and weighting golf clubs that also knows the make up of pool cues could come up with a "standards" to apply to pool cues......I think once this happens it will be easier to "define" what set up you like in a pool cue....Until then...you will either have to get "lucky" and be able to buy that specific cue that fits your stroke, or get close and adapt to the specific cue your using.

 

[drivermaker]

I think that someone with a very solid understanding of how to measure balancing and weighting golf clubs that also knows the make up of pool cues could come up with a "standards" to apply to pool cues......I think once this happens it will be easier to "define" what set up you like in a pool cue....Until then...you will either have to get "lucky" and be able to buy that specific cue that fits your stroke, or get close and adapt to the specific cue your using.

As you've said before..."How many BILLIONS do you think have been pumped into R&D in golf compared to pool. Maybe a million"?

 

[TeddyJ]

what custom cue makers have weight bolts in there cues?

Steven

There must be more to your question. There's over 400 custom cue makers in the country.

Some use weight bolts. Others don't.

 

[BRKNRUN]

As you've said before..."How many BILLIONS do you think have been pumped into R&D in golf compared to pool. Maybe a million"?

I have a couple million stuffed in a matress...If I could just can't find the grandma thats sleeping on it ............

 

[Rude Dog]

I don't even know what a weight bolt is. If I pick up a cue and it feels good, I use it. I don't know what the weight is of my cue, never have, but I can feel the difference in a cue if it feels too heavy or too light, to my liking. Not that any of this means anything, just thought I'd share. Maybe I should be a cuemaker? Woooohoooo, I've found my calling in life! J/K cuemakers, I think my meds have kicked in, gotta cut back on the good stuff.

 

[Barry C.]

what custom cue makers have weight bolts in there cues?

Steven

Some do and some don't and some do some of the time. I personally use weight bolts some of the time. I use it to fine tune the balance and the customers desired weight, keeping the weight distributed throughout the cue.

To me, balance is very important on how a cue feels and plays. I like a balance on a 19oz cue to be around 18.75 inches from the butt cap. Sometimes to fine tune the balance and weight, a little weight is added towards the rear of the cue. Most weight bolts that I use are about 3" in length, aluminum, and weigh about .4 oz and can be cut for less weight. I don't like, what is sometimes called a butt heavy cue. I like a forward balanced cue and care how my cues play.

Hope this helps

Barry C.

 

[justabrake]

There must be more to your question. There's over 400 custom cue makers in the country.

Some use weight bolts. Others don't.

I just wanted to know the most popular custom cuemakers that put weightbolts in there cues, for buying purposes ( all the time ) I don't want to buy a cue that I couldn't change a weight on. if thats OK with you, but some people use a thread like you to ask a question but don't contribute to it, so if you have custom makers cue and it has a weight bolt you could just post-it

I hope that helps to answer your question here!


Steven

 

[pete lafond]

I tried to change my Schon...The lightest I could get it was 19.5.

I did find out that taking weight off the very butt end has almost double the effect of lightening a cue than removing weight from the middle section...
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I did not actually do this myself. I handed my cue to a good friend of mine and he returned it to me at about 18.5 oz. He may have completely taken it out, don't know. In any event it does feel slightly front end weighted which to me is also a very good thing.

I used to have the sl14 and then saw the CX22. Fell in love with it, bought it and a friend of mine changed the weight for me.

 

[Pigcarver]

I don't even know what a weight bolt is. If I pick up a cue and it feels good, I use it. I don't know what the weight is of my cue, never have, but I can feel the difference in a cue if it feels too heavy or too light, to my liking. Not that any of this means anything, just thought I'd share. Maybe I should be a cuemaker? Woooohoooo, I've found my calling in life! J/K cuemakers, I think my meds have kicked in, gotta cut back on the good stuff.

The voice of reason....

 

[runscott]

The voice of reason....

Yep, and if it feels too heavy it's nice to be able to remove part of the weight bolt (or add weight), as opposed to passing on a beautiful cue because it's too heavy or light for you.

 

[TeddyJ]

if thats OK with you, but some people use a thread like you to ask a question but don't contribute to it,

I just thought there was a little more to the question that would make it easier to answer. Sorry if there was some confusion. Some do, some don't. That's about all I can contribute.

 

[Fat Ivory]

some folks make a mountain out of a moe hill. I have NOT BASHED any cuemakers. I simply made an honest statement how some guys do.I have heard several of them speak of it offen.
I never mentioned anyones name. I have more respect for them than that. Let them build whatever works for them.
blud

This is a poor effort at trying to cover your ass after your outsized ego once more rears it's ugly head. You bashed every cuemaker who uses a weightbolt, and your above post doesn't change that except maybe in your own mind.
I'd recommend that to sell more cues, you need to stop writing stuff.
Quality cues sell themselves. Your self-promotion only makes you look bad. I know you've completely turned me off to a sale.