George the Greek
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My break cue is a Dufferin turned down to 11.5mm with a pro taper. I had a collar added to the joint
What’s the accepted definition of a Sneaky Pete cue?
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I spent a lot of time in Sailor's back in the mid-70's. Good times.
Mine is a two piece. No collar. Looks like a house cue and plays like a Palmer. I even had a house cue black ferrule installed by Jerry Oliver to make it look more like a house cue.
a) wood to wood joint
b) not excessively gaudy points
c) no rings
d) no engraving
e) nothing attention grabbing
b) not excessively gaudy points
c) no rings
d) no engraving
e) nothing attention grabbing
David,
I never hung out there. There was serious pool it seemed at the time, and I was just someone who liked a few beers and some bar pool at the time. I did go there a few times, but just watched and not for long.
Do you ever remember a pool hall in the old sears building downtown. I think it was the 300 block on main. I think there used to be a pool hall in uptown at one time also.
I never hung out there. There was serious pool it seemed at the time, and I was just someone who liked a few beers and some bar pool at the time. I did go there a few times, but just watched and not for long.
Do you ever remember a pool hall in the old sears building downtown. I think it was the 300 block on main. I think there used to be a pool hall in uptown at one time also.
How does a perfectly straight shaft help on razor thin cuts? Answer is it doesn't.
Ok. I guess it doesn't
All I know is in 9 Ball play I have made many thin cuts 2 diamonds into a corner pocket from 8+ feet away. Much to the chagrin of my opp.
I guess it was luck.
oh, I practice those shots as well
honestly, it helps with alignment,....... or seems to.
I have two Eliminator sneaky petes, each cost around $40. One is always in my car trunk in case of sudden pool hall urge. They have the big fat butt bumper that completes the house cue illusion. They have pro taper shafts and the shaft does match the butt pretty well. I was playing a friend one day with it and another friend said: "You have so many cues and you're playing with a house cue?" I laughed and explained to him that once you put a nice tip on these, they play pretty well.
As an aside, I have this one cue in my trunk for about 3 years in Cape Coral, Florida. It has recently developed a small "taper roll." My driveway is inclined to elevate the house 9 feet over sea level. The sun roof drains were leaking into the trunk, so not only was the cue exposed to temperature extremes, it was in a mini sauna most days (overnight condensation is pretty common). I have drilled some holes into the trunk by the spare tire to drain the water after many attempts to improve the drains failed. I never would have believed that a cheap cue in a cheap case could survive these conditions. I do not recommend doing this with a good cue, but for only $40, not the end of the world.
As an aside, I have this one cue in my trunk for about 3 years in Cape Coral, Florida. It has recently developed a small "taper roll." My driveway is inclined to elevate the house 9 feet over sea level. The sun roof drains were leaking into the trunk, so not only was the cue exposed to temperature extremes, it was in a mini sauna most days (overnight condensation is pretty common). I have drilled some holes into the trunk by the spare tire to drain the water after many attempts to improve the drains failed. I never would have believed that a cheap cue in a cheap case could survive these conditions. I do not recommend doing this with a good cue, but for only $40, not the end of the world.
snookered_again
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I just wanted a $100 cue that was reasonably straight and not embellished, especially with the fake labels or thin veneers. I didn't even think about trying to fool anyone, but it fit the budget and it's fine. I dont think a 400 dollar cue will improve my shot very much. Nothing wrong with a beautiful and expensive cue if that's what you want. I just wanted something reasonably straight and to avoid borrowing cues or using house cues so I could get used to having the same weight , tip profile etc. It made me feel that any disadvantage I had wasn't because I had a messed up cue with a loose tip , crooked, or some other issue. I play more snooker so it turned out to be a good decision , I still want to play with the 2 1/4 balls occasionally so I felt it was a good decision for me.
The $80 sneaky that J&J sells is a nice cue for nxt to nothing. http://www.jjcue.com/jjcues.htm #2529 If getting one get the wb tip. Med-hrd and plays great.
I still play with my Meucci SP that I bought around 1991/2. The long ferrule is definitely a give-away. I don’t play it to hide anything. I just like playing with it.
Benelli
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My break cue is a Players sneaky that I bought at a thrift store. The shaft was straight as an arrow but the weight bolt had been ripped out and there was a hollow cavity in the butt from whatever the hell had happened to it. Four dollars later it was in the car on the way home with me.
Filled in the giant hole with 2-part epoxy adding at least three maybe four ounces to the overall weight and turned the thing into a gravity-increasing orbital hammer from hell. Then put a Kamui SAI control tip on and she breaks like a runaway freight train.
I would say she "hits a ton" but if you were to actually measure the impact I'm pretty sure it makes small tears in the fabric of reality at the point of contact and it's the explosion of antimatter that is propelling the cue ball down table...
That is what a true sneaky pete can do...
House cue with a joint added was what I originally called a sneaky pete. Then it was a house cue butt with a custom shaft.
Then people wanted them dressed up a little bit, and the joints protected with trim rings, and it was easy to still call them sneakies.
Good house cues are getting harder and harder to find, and most "sneakies" are just full splice blanks from Schmelke or other makers.
They should probably just be called a "full splice" or something similar, if you wish to keep "sneaky pete" as what it originally meant.
Then people wanted them dressed up a little bit, and the joints protected with trim rings, and it was easy to still call them sneakies.
Good house cues are getting harder and harder to find, and most "sneakies" are just full splice blanks from Schmelke or other makers.
They should probably just be called a "full splice" or something similar, if you wish to keep "sneaky pete" as what it originally meant.
I
Am sneaky Pete
Am sneaky Pete
A couple decades ago I went to see the fine folks at Goulds Home Recreation here in Saskatoon Canada. Ev, the manager, and myself went though a huge display of Dufferin Phantoms to find a great one. It's still straight, the grain still lines up at the joint, and I still can't play pool ... but I got another from a friend because I liked the bacote (my 25 yo one is some kind of rosewood). Both have red leafs. Both made in Mississauga.
Dave <-- also has many "sneaky petes" that would not pass the strict definition but the PDF and Tucker and Lambros and Blackcreek all play way better than the Dufferins IMO.