What cue stroke are you using?

What type of stroke are you using?

  • A complete fixed elbow pendulum stroke.

    Votes: 48 39.3%

  • A variation of a pendulum stroke.

    Votes: 45 36.9%

  • Something other than a pendulum like a piston stroke.

    Votes: 29 23.8%
  • Total voters
    122
  • Poll closed .
Rick, Rick, Rick.... you asked for evidence. You got it. Evidence good enough that it can not be rationally disputed. Yet, you say it shows nothing. When confronted with the truth, apparently you just can't handle being proven wrong all along. I know it's hard for you to man-up and admit you were always wrong, but, just do it. You have already completely lost any credibility you may have had. Nowhere but up to go now.

Time to stop your tirades and lies. You say you are a christian, then start acting like one. Time to stop being vindictive, distorting or even refusing to see the truth, insulting everyone just because you had a job that made you suspicious. (get over it, you aren't in that job anymore) You are now appearing like you have totally lost it just because you got backed into a corner with the truth. Just own the truth, and the world will be fine again. If you keep refusing to see the truth, there's no telling just how far down the road you have chosen you will end up. But, it won't be pretty for you. For your own sake, please stop and give it some thought. You are losing it guy, and all because you chose to take the road of revenge for a falsely perceived slight instead of forgiveness and admitting you were wrong.
 
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gregcantrall said:
Neil, have you looked at this?
Practical demonstration of cue tip path with a Pendulum stroke.
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Yes, I did. It also proves it, but as you found out, Rick dismissed it too. He's got so much time, and words invested in this, that he just can't bring himself to admit he has been wrong all along. He knows that to admit it means to have to take everything he has said about others all this time, and turn it around and put it on himself. He can't face the truth.
 
Neil said:
Yes, I did. It also proves it, but as you found out, Rick dismissed it too. He's got so much time, and words invested in this, that he just can't bring himself to admit he has been wrong all along. He knows that to admit it means to have to take everything he has said about others all this time, and turn it around and put it on himself. He can't face the truth.
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I only read the first two sentences of his post to that thread. I was literally rolling on the floor laughing, with tears in my eyes.
 
Bringing it forward to jog Rick's memory

1. You get BAD intel from unnamed sources.
2. He doesn't answer because he is trying to avoid you
3. You insult him because you believe he was misleading you.

Did I take any of this out of context?

I think you should question your sources of information haven't you posted that you learned that lesson a long time ago?

The point of this Rick, is that this is your MO whenever challenged. People can take only so much.

I have yet to see any thread that you get involved with go in any direction but south.



Neil said:
Gee Rick, think it might be this post? The one you owe him an apology for?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghosst View Post
I'm reposting these links so you can see them Rick, any thoughts? I still want to see you post your own as well. I'll add mine later today.


English: Go back & read the JA apologizes to MD thread & tell me why I should do anything for you.

AND when I mistook you for Ray Martin & asked for a clarification, as far as I know & I checked, you did nothing to make me aware that you are not Ray Martin as someone else has advised me.

That certainly leads me to believe that you are not opposed to deception & are not one to be trusted.

That also makes me doubt your sincerity here. It seems to me that you might merely be someone's puppet & doing their 'dirty' work.
Why all of sudden are you interested in this topic only after the JA/MD thread interaction?

Sorry. I have too many questions about you to give you any answers.

Apparently there is more deception on AZB than I would have ever thought.
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Tony_in_MD said:
The problem as I see it is that you write so much "stuff" and go down so many rabbit holes that you may truly not remember what you say.

Are these lurkers the same members that gave you bad information regarding Ghossts true identity? No one gave me bad information regarding Ghosst. I made the initial mistake & when I realized that I probably had, I asked him for a clarification that did not come from him until I asked him again in this thread. A misleading distortion from you.

Or is this just another conspiracy theory?

Since you are now reading our posts, take Neil's suggestion regarding the video, and I expect an apology from you regarding the distortions you have posted about me, and every other instructor who you imply is deceiving their students. I have looked at the video & it proves nothing, keep in mind that I have only asked for an explanation for Randy G's assertion as I do not see how it can happen especially in light of Bob Jewett's analysis. I have never said that straight line tip travel does not exist. I have said that I don't see how it does & have asked for an explanation. That video gives no more proof of a straight travelling tip as it would for an arcing tip. Just as me posting one of a piston type stroke withh my eyes closed. Sean made an assertion regarding what could be done with a pendulum stroke & turning the head & inferred & that one would have to WATCH the cue with a piston stroke. Should I or you ask him to post his videos first? Again you distort the situation.

Until I get it, I will continue to remind you that I want to see video proof of your straight stroke (with your eyes closed in action) refer back to my challenge if you forgot. Realize, there was no money involved, never was, I just want to see you do something that you say everyone who strokes straight through the ball can do. See the blue above.

Until then, read more, argue less, and keep your ego at the door. Please don't allow your arrogant condescending ego to TELL me what to do like you did in the 'sweet spot' thread that resulted in getting it closed.
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So who did you speak to regarding buyer's remorse & how dd you get their name?
 
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Neil said:
Rick, Rick, Rick.... you asked for evidence. You got it. Evidence good enough that it can not be rationally disputed. Yet, you say it shows nothing. When confronted with the truth, apparently you just can't handle being proven wrong all along. I know it's hard for you to man-up and admit you were always wrong, but, just do it. You have already completely lost any credibility you may have had. Nowhere but up to go now.

Time to stop your tirades and lies. You say you are a christian, then start acting like one. Time to stop being vindictive, distorting or even refusing to see the truth, insulting everyone just because you had a job that made you suspicious. (get over it, you aren't in that job anymore) You are now appearing like you have totally lost it just because you got backed into a corner with the truth. Just own the truth, and the world will be fine again. If you keep refusing to see the truth, there's no telling just how far down the road you have chosen you will end up. But, it won't be pretty for you. For your own sake, please stop and give it some thought. You are losing it guy, and all because you chose to take the road of revenge for a falsely perceived slight instead of forgiveness and admitting you were wrong.
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I am a Christian. That part of your post IS true.
 
Can I do a Poll within a Poll.

"They' say that 'they' did not derail this thread because it involves a pendulum stroke.

I'd like votes.

Have 'they' derailed this thread? [ ] yes [ ] no
 
Greg Cantrall, Rick highlighted the part in blue:
What I find particularly hilarious is his comparison to the days where people believed the earth was flat and here he is trying to say the earth is round. What he's not getting is we are well past those days of supposition and have PROOF that a pendulum stroke gives more than a couple full inches of completely flat cue travel through the cue ball. But he's here arguing with us that the earth is flat -- based purely on his supposition and conjecture about what he "thinks" -- when it's LONG been proven the earth is round. He just refuses to see the proof. Forget the fact there is video evidence out there (including in this very thread); "my gosh, a pendulum arc just *HAS* to cause a perfectly-rising and -falling tip that has no straight travel to it whatsoever!"

Ricks reply to above quote:
Please see the portion in bold blue above & please provide such proof as that is all that my initial inquiry ever sought, but has never been provided. Mr. Jewett's charts of his analysis of the tip travel that I have seen does not show that.

Rick a half hour ago:
I have looked at the video & it proves nothing, keep in mind that I have only asked for an explanation for Randy G's assertion as I do not see how it can happen especially in light of Bob Jewett's analysis. I have never said that straight line tip travel does not exist. I have said that I don't see how it does & have asked for an explanation. That video gives no more proof of a straight travelling tip as it would for an arcing tip. Just as me posting one of a piston type stroke withh my eyes closed. Sean made an assertion regarding what could be done with a pendulum stroke & turning the head & inferred that one would to WATCH the cue with a piston stroke. Should I or you ask him to post his videos first? Again you distort the situation.

I highlighted in red a part of the quote immediately above. Rick, do you think everyone else is that stupid, that they can't read? Or do you just have no idea what you even say? You accuse others of distorting things, when they obviously are not. That makes you either a liar, or your memory is so bad you don't even have a clue what you are saying. Then yet, that is the problem with lying- too hard to keep track of to be believable, eventually you get caught red-handed, like you did here.

You ask for one thing, then when provided proof, you try and change what you asked for and say you never asked that in the first place. You even go as far as saying that the proof you now require was never supplied. Another lie. It has been a number of times. But, you forgot that you even argued against that proof too.

I only showed one instance in the above quotes. That is just from the last day or so. I could easily give MANY quotes of you stating that all you want is to show that the cue does travel straight with a pendulum stroke for several inches just before contact.

Be a honorable man Rick. Own up to what you have done and said, and that you have been wrong all along. You are only digging a deeper hole for yourself.
 
Apology to ENGLISH!

ENGLISH!, I have said some mean things to you and about you. I apologize. I had assumed that you were being deliberately obtuse. I am no longer of that opinion.

This does not mean I want to be pals. Just that I am ashamed of myself and sincerely apologize.
 
gregcantrall said:
ENGLISH!, I have said some mean things to you and about you. I apologize. I had assumed that you were being deliberately obtuse. I am no longer of that opinion.

This does not mean I want to be pals. Just that I am ashamed of myself and sincerely apologize.
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Sir,

I certainly accept your apology & reciprocate my apology to you for my reaction.

I am a reactive person. My turning the other cheek abilities certainly needs work. I try... but it is certainly difficult at times when you are constantly getting slapped on both sides of your face at the same time.

Your model result is not totally what I expected either & I am thinking about why that might be other than the 'different' connection of the rod to the cue. I've done my own little make shift experiment but I am no where near ready to post anything.

But since you are being investigative, have you done what I suggested to Pidge with a mechanical bridge? It seems rather conclusive to me.

Thank you again & I do appreciate what you have done.... both with the model & with this post.

Best Wishes to You Sir,
Rick
 
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