what cues that you own - Canada only

Berzelius

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Agreed on Radial, there weren't any for quite awhile on Poison's site (playing cues with radial pins), they just all popped up just before their black friday sale.

so, Cue & Case ?
 

shojingod

AzB Silver Member
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Agreed on Radial, there weren't any for quite awhile on Poison's site (playing cues with radial pins), they just all popped up just before their black friday sale.

so, Cue & Case ?
Cue & Case is a distributer and sub contractor. Some brand names are strictly made for cue & case while others are distributed by cue & case. Predator/Poison are partially made by a cue & case sub contractor manufacturer in Asia. That Asia contractor makes the Cue & Case brands (Lucasi, Player, Dufferin, etc.) are the same that makes Poison for Predator int. Poison is lower cost brand made for Predator by Asian cue maker sub contractor. Most parts of Predator cues are made in Asia unless they are special editions which get sub contracted to other makers like Jacoby, Pechauer, Schon, Samsarra, but generally they get advertise as such. The only thing done by Predator in house is the finishing of shafts. Wood and lamination comes from the same source as any Lucasi cue with slight differences. Most cues made in the US use the components from a group of 5 to 6 asian companies (bumper, joint pins, inserts, veneers, synthetics). The only company that makes almost everything in house is Pechauer, other than maybe synthetic components since they are chemically made by polymer/plastic manufacturer. Wood comes from all over the world.
 

Berzelius

New member
Wow 🤯 that is a lot of info !

Thank you for the *very* informative post ! I went for C&C because I knew that about Players cues in general, but I had no idea how complex it could be. I do have a couple of questions about this bit :

- "That Asia contractor makes the Cue & Case brands (Lucasi, Player, Dufferin, etc.) are the same that makes Poison for Predator int. Poison is lower cost brand made for Predator by Asian cue maker sub contractor. Most parts of Predator cues are made in Asia unless they are special editions which get sub contracted to other makers like Jacoby, Pechauer, Schon, Samsarra, but generally they get advertise as such."

When you say "Predator int", do you mean that cues from the international website are different from the cues from the US site ?

Does the "unless they are special editions" thing also apply for the sub-brand Poison special edition cues ?

Thanks !

Berzelius
 

shojingod

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Wow 🤯 that is a lot of info !

Thank you for the *very* informative post ! I went for C&C because I knew that about Players cues in general, but I had no idea how complex it could be. I do have a couple of questions about this bit :

- "That Asia contractor makes the Cue & Case brands (Lucasi, Player, Dufferin, etc.) are the same that makes Poison for Predator int. Poison is lower cost brand made for Predator by Asian cue maker sub contractor. Most parts of Predator cues are made in Asia unless they are special editions which get sub contracted to other makers like Jacoby, Pechauer, Schon, Samsarra, but generally they get advertise as such."

When you say "Predator int", do you mean that cues from the international website are different from the cues from the US site ?

Does the "unless they are special editions" thing also apply for the sub-brand Poison special edition cues ?

Thanks !

Berzelius
Sorry I mean the Predator group. When I typed it I could not recall at the top of my head what was the official business name for Predator. So I used the generic " Company int. or inc." no Poison special editions cues are just made by the asian maker. They advertise when another maker makes it for them. No difference between us or int. predator sites. when it comes to where cues are made.
 

NorthernArbiter

Registered
Predator P3 Black no wrap
With Revo 11.8mm shaft.

Break cue:
Black Rage Heavy Hitter with custom carbon break shaft and white diamond tip a cue smith made for me. Check out Nick's Cue Innovation on Facebook, he's based out of Calgary.

I recently sold my Predator SP2 Curly 2 with 12.4mm shaft.

At maximum force, the 11.8mm Revo shaft vibrates a bit... It's best for precise medium to soft shooting. There was nothing wrong with the 12.4mm I sold.... I'd been playing a bit with an 11.75mm custom carbon shaft.

Cheers
 

NorthernArbiter

Registered
PS

I'll look it up another time... I have the email for Falcon, they are overseas in Asia now... You can order direct. My first cue was a black Falcon NSF with one of the first Predator wooden low deflection shafts.... Loved it.
 

axlrose

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
If I ever get to play snooker again, John Parris Classic and Ultimate, Morgan, Predator, McDaniel, Pechauer x 3.

Ryan
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