What do the Pro's use? Tips and Ferrules

mortuarymike-nv

mortuarymike-nv
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I have a bunch of questions.

I was told one time that most of the better players use a harder tip.
I would like to know if that statement is true with all the different tips that are being made in this hi tech age ?

I struggle with a hard tip. but if using a hard is going to make me into a better player then I am willig to try.

If I should be using a hard tip please explain why?

How long a tip last is not a concern, with in reason.

Sorry I forgot I use solid maple shafts. 12.25 mm to 13 mm
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Ferrule
I have been thinking of installing Ivory ferrule on one of the shafts I have for my main player.
I am thinking this will make for a slight stiffer hit. I have a melamine ferrules on at the current time.
if so should the ferrule be threaded and capped , just capped no threads,
or no threads and no cap.. and how long should the ferrule be?

Merry Christmas everyone.
And God bless this mess :grinning-moose:
MMike
 
I think it's mainly personal preference period. Some still use really soft tips like Corey and Efren who I am almost positive still use elk masters. As far as many using hard types like SVB I would say it is tougher to use a harder tip and your stroke really needs to be right to make it effective, similar to shafts on golf clubs of the pros, I'm sure most golfers couldn't handle a pros equipment, JMO
 
If you go with ivory, make them short and uncapped...to minimize weight and deflection.
 
definitely uncapped... Why turn your ferrule into an insulator between your back hand and th tip?

Try a Moori Quick (hard) and you will become a convert to hard tips
 
The 2 quotes above mine are dead-on.Melimine plays better imo but
if you like tons of defection go with full length ivory.
Ivory is my most hated ferrule material unless there short like
how Corey Barnhart does his.
 
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i use Keith Hannsens black widow tips. they are the hardest thing you will find . the idea of the hard tip is that it will not flatten when it hits the ball and possibly deflect the shot. Keith treats them somehow and they behave like a tip should . the chalk is what provides the grip to keep the tip from sliding the idea is to jam the chalk between the ball surface and the tip. People i have given the tips to have had an "adjustment " period of about a month to get used to the extra action and spin the tips provide . its true your stroke has to be accurate because of the effects of throw from the unintentional spin if you are even slightly off center on your stroke. softer tips are more forgiving because you get less "action" on the ball its necessary to "soften up " your game and add more follow through rather than force. it's a known fact that most pros (except for the break) shoot about 1/3 to 1/2 as hard as amateurs. kieth is pool__time on this forum i suggest you buy some of his tips and try them out nobody i have given them to will use anything else. once you get the tip shaped right you will see your game improve by leaps and bounds.
 
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I use Tim Scruggs cues...

Ivory. capped, and threaded 1" ferrules.
And then, I'm using the Soaked and Pressed tips from Tommy, which I believe are now extinct...but they hit like a medium hard...

But, I'm planning to go to the Ultra Skin Med, as soon as needed...

And, I love the way my cue plays! It really can hit the balls straight!

~~~OH, but I'm not a pro~~~
I'm just an average B player...

jwe
 
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There isn't any tip made that will improve someone's game by leaps & bounds.

And there isn't a cue out there that hits the ball straight, it's the person using it.

A certain cue, tip or ferrule is largely irrelevant. One might like the "feel" or "hit" of certain equipment but if looking to improve your game the answers lie elsewhere.

To the OP, What do you mean when you say you "struggle" with a hard tip?
 
I think many better players use harder tips cause they know that no matter what you start with it's generally going to get harder anyway.

I'd rather start with the tip I'm know I'm going to end up with right from the get go. Plus, there's no big adjustment period when you have to re-tip a cue.

As for ferrules , IMO the effects of all the different materials are WAY over rated. People say this or that is more or less deflection....blah....it's just not that big a difference. I play with some LD shafts and some old school tight grain ivory ferrule shafts and if both are of high quality and construction it's all minor differences.

As to the hardness , I certainly don't think a harder tip will make you a better player , what I think is that a better player can get away with a harder tip. ;)
 
sparkle i meant the discipline of getting a real center ball hit that a hard tip demands will improve your game. try this drill if you will get a cue ball with the little red dot on it set it up to face you centered chalk your cue and hit the ball then look where your chalk spot is on the ball and see how close you come to the spot. a miss in any direction puts some spin on the ball . get rid of that spin (unless you need it ) and long shots get a lot easier
 
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There isn't any tip made that will improve someone's game by leaps & bounds.

And there isn't a cue out there that hits the ball straight, it's the person using it.

A certain cue, tip or ferrule is largely irrelevant. One might like the "feel" or "hit" of certain equipment but if looking to improve your game the answers lie elsewhere.

To the OP, What do you mean when you say you "struggle" with a hard tip?

hard tips
When I am shooting off the rail I miss cue more.
Seems I have to give my shots more focus on where I am hitting cue ball.
I am thinking because I use soft tips it has made my focus on where I hit the cue ball some what lazy and could be the cause of some of my missed shots.

I think my playing is at a level where nothing is going make me shoot leaps and bounds better then what I am shooting now. I just want to improve my game a little bit here and there.





MMike
 
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