What do you think about this situation - was I in the wrong here?
- Thread starter BillPorter
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You should certainly be able to use whatever cue you wanted. There was no stipulation on that. The shot was one that obviously required a good tip, and you never bet that it could be done with poor equipment. However, if you did say that you could cut the ball in, then the kick shot was no good.
you know after thinking about this i think the only thing you did wrong was offering him his money back
Hey, you may have a future as a road player!:grin-square:
Glad to see that you could squash this and put it behind you.
I can't see the table (here at work...the flash player doesn't work) so what I am imagining is that the object ball is in the middle diamond on the end rail. I am also seeing that the cue ball is almost in line with it up the table. The bet was to cut the ball into the pocket? So you would just use an extreme english off of the rail to throw the ball in right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this, even though it doesn't look like it, is a kick shot anyway. You are hitting rail first (a kick) and throwing the ball in. Keep in mind I can't see the way the table was laid out.
I can't see the table (here at work...the flash player doesn't work) so what I am imagining is that the object ball is in the middle diamond on the end rail. I am also seeing that the cue ball is almost in line with it up the table. The bet was to cut the ball into the pocket? So you would just use an extreme english off of the rail to throw the ball in right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this, even though it doesn't look like it, is a kick shot anyway. You are hitting rail first (a kick) and throwing the ball in. Keep in mind I can't see the way the table was laid out.
Yes, object ball frozen to the center of the foot rail and cue ball frozen to the center of the head rail. Yep, in some sense it has to be a kick as the cue ball must contact the rail first with extreme English, but it is a MUCH easier shot to make kicking off the side rail. I am sure the fellow who made the bet with me assumed I would not kick off the side rail.
True, but in a new light, you weren't cutting at it to begin with. They were both kick shots, off the side rail or off the foot rail....The shot is damn near impossible to cut in, without hitting the rail first and throwing it.
I'm trying to point out that you made a false bet to begin with. You were destined to lose if the other guy stuck to his guns. If you told me that you were going to cut the ball in and froze both balls on the rails. I would have taken the bet and said ok, well, you can't throw it in like that, because you aren't hitting the object ball first to cut it.
The definition of a kick is hitting a rail first and contacting your object. Exactly what you were doing. I would have seen this hustle coming from a mile away. If it were me, I would have been making the bet with you. Not the other way around. That you couldn't cut the ball in, lol.
In any event, I am glad to see that you both took care of the problem and moved on. Like many others have said, money isn't worth a good friendship. I could never put a price on all the good times I have had playing pool with friends, betting or not.
You just made my head hurt. Not only could I not understand what the hell you are talking about. But you are yelling. Please remove caps before posting.:frown:
sorry
forgive me, as i am old and hard of hearing , just natural for me to talk loud!!!what i try to say across the top rail the 3 diamond markers the middle one was just a hole,it was missing. he would put qb in the hole and shoot. clear now???
forgive me, as i am old and hard of hearing , just natural for me to talk loud!!!what i try to say across the top rail the 3 diamond markers the middle one was just a hole,it was missing. he would put qb in the hole and shoot. clear now???
Every cue shoots differently and the cloth and rails also play differently. Once you get your aiming point down on a particular table this becomes an easy shot. Like I said earlier, it is an even money shot. I used to lock up 10 tries for 10.00 a try. Out of the 10 tries I would make the ball 7 to 8 times making 40 or 60.00.
Dick
Hey Dick, I set that shot up earlier today - cue ball sitting up on the rail in the middle of the head rail and object ball frozen in the middle of the foot rail. I had never even tried the shot before and made two out of five tries. Once you find an aiming point, it is surprisingly easy, certainly much easier than with the cue ball frozen to the rail.
hahahaha.. thats what he gets for being a jerk.
we have an older guy that actually sets the cue ball up on the rail and shoots it one handed.
we have an older guy that actually sets the cue ball up on the rail and shoots it one handed.