What Do You Think of My Cue Design?

[BillYards]

Viatorre is in the Philippines... buy with caution and ask other members for input regarding these cues....

Puerto Rico doesn't have a single cue maker here.... There is not a huge market... people like Schon and McDermott here, though there are some nice customs floating around....

 

[Get_A_Grip]

New Version with Rings

Here is a new version of the cue design with some rings added. The rings would have alternating smaller diamonds of ivory and malachite.

 

[8-ball Rat]

Now THAT's what I'm talking about...

Nice work! Looks like all of us who were fans of the "add rings" idea were dead on.

Nice rings design, and really adds that "extra something" to make the cue complete!

Best of luck finding your cuemaker. It'll be a stunner!

Be good,

Mark (Rat)

 

[Zims Rack]

Here is a new version of the cue design with some rings added. The rings would have alternating smaller diamonds of ivory and malachite.

I guess we have similar tastes in design, I just drew this, then viewed page 2 of this post and seen your new design.

I would suggest Jacoby Custom Cues or you might want to try Chris' Cues. Chris Whittaker is from Anna, Illinois and is very reasonably priced. www.talismanbilliards.com/ChrisCues.asp

Thanks and good luck,
Zim

 

[Get_A_Grip]

I guess we have similar tastes in design, I just drew this, then viewed page 2 of this post and seen your new design.

I would suggest Jacoby Custom Cues or you might want to try Chris' Cues. Chris Whittaker is from Anna, Illinois and is very reasonably priced. www.talismanbilliards.com/ChrisCues.asp

Thanks and good luck,
Zim

Hey Zim, thanks a lot. Yeah, it's funny, we both came up with alternating diamonds for the rings...LOL. Thanks for the cuemaker suggesion too. Looks like he does everything by hand. One curious thing, though, on the higher end cues that he's made...I don't see sharp points??

Also, thank you to 8-ball Rat. I like the look of the rings on the cue too.

 

[Zims Rack]

Hey Zim, thanks a lot. Yeah, it's funny, we both came up with alternating diamonds for the rings...LOL. Thanks for the cuemaker suggesion too. Looks like he does everything by hand. One curious thing, though, on the higher end cues that he's made...I don't see sharp points??

Also, thank you to 8-ball Rat. I like the look of the rings on the cue too.

I've seen some of his recent cues and the points are a little sharper than those in the photos, you could talk to him personally and see what he says. Tell him Michael Zimmerman "Zim" sent you!

Zim

 

[thoffen]

I read a post a while back about Viattorre--there're in Puerto Rico right? That company sounds like what I'm looking for. Good workmanship, a good hitting cue, and lower prices than most. I definitely don't want to spend more than $3000, but closer to $2000 would be preferable.

I'm working on designing some rings for the cue. When I'm done I'll post the revised version.

As for green inlays...I know that some people don't like them, but I really do. I actually changed the color of the malachite to "red" and it looked like a candy-cane...LOL. I also tried blue for turquoise...and didn't like that either. I definitely want to stick with all ebony for the base wood with lots of ivory. (BTW, I do have a cue made with rosewood...but it doesn't hit near as good as my Gina with maple forearm...so I'm not convinced that the type of wood used for the forearm has too much of an effect on the playability).

Now I'm confused again about CNC work and the fact that I want sharp points. Is there really no way to do CNC for the majority and also do some work by hand to still get razor-sharp points?

Viattorre is in the Phillippines. They are very reputable. I have not heard one bad thing about them other than having to wait! They hand-make everything.

Some makers will do CNC work and then hand-sharpen.

IMO if you're settling for lower quality on a fancy design that doesn't aid to the construction, you may as well buy a decal cue .

 

[skins]

Now I'm confused again about CNC work and the fact that I want sharp points. Is there really no way to do CNC for the majority and also do some work by hand to still get razor-sharp points?

the use of cnc does not mean "rounded" points. if you want the point sharp the pockets have to be worked by hand after their cut that's all. that adds to the price with most makers. but this cue, the way you want it, will cost at least $3000.

 

[Jaden]

The squared back points.

If you want the points to be spliced you would have to slightly change the design. If the back of the points were slightly pointed as well, then it could be done. but the other inlays would have to also not have any squared off......

Wait a minute. It could be done spliced. It would just require alot of work. I wouldn't do it for less than 3000 though.......

It couldn't be done into a solid piece of Ebony though. The portions of Ebony in between the points would have to be from a separate block that would be spliced in and then the two side triangles would have to be spliced into that. It would be a LOOOOTTTTTT of work......to have it done with splicing.

 

[skins]

If you want the points to be spliced you would have to slightly change the design. If the back of the points were slightly pointed as well, then it could be done. but the other inlays would have to also not have any squared off......

Wait a minute. It could be done spliced. It would just require alot of work. I wouldn't do it for less than 3000 though.......

It couldn't be done into a solid piece of Ebony though. The portions of Ebony in between the points would have to be from a separate block that would be spliced in and then the two side triangles would have to be spliced into that. It would be a LOOOOTTTTTT of work......to have it done with splicing.

ya know i wasn't even thinking of that! your right you could put about a 2.5 inch ebony ring below the splice and inlay into that. but you are right though to much work and with ivory to high a cost to most makers. good obsevation

 

[cueaddicts]

Here is a new version of the cue design with some rings added. The rings would have alternating smaller diamonds of ivory and malachite.

Pretty wild design. Looks a LOT like stuff that has been made for years by John Robinson out of southern CA and now AZ.

Here's the equation: lots of inlays = lots of $$$. I agree with others here that most any competent cuemaker will charge you around $3000. I'm certain that somebody like Andy Gilbert would because this kind of work (1) is 'outside the norm' design-wise, (2) templates of the inlays will more than likely have to be made, (3) set-up time will be killer with the inlays inside of inlays (scaling, centering, etc.), and (4) all of the inlaid ring sets.

Here's a few more observations....to get it done in a 4 point configuration you are probably going to have to make the inlays all more slender and all of the inlays at the base of the points, smaller. As it's scaled out now, it would probably have to be 3 points. The floating point work will pretty much have to be cut in with flat point/inlays using pantograph or CNC. It's the only way that makes any sense really. Sure, a cuemaker can sharpen the ends of the points, diamond, and hourglass inlay shapes, but that will be quite a bit more extra $$$ because of the number of inlays.

Neat stuff. Let us know whom you get to do the work and we'd love to see the finished product.

Sean

 

[Get_A_Grip]

Here's a few more observations....to get it done in a 4 point configuration you are probably going to have to make the inlays all more slender and all of the inlays at the base of the points, smaller. As it's scaled out now, it would probably have to be 3 points. The floating point work will pretty much have to be cut in with flat point/inlays using pantograph or CNC. It's the only way that makes any sense really. Sure, a cuemaker can sharpen the ends of the points, diamond, and hourglass inlay shapes, but that will be quite a bit more extra $$$ because of the number of inlays.

Neat stuff. Let us know whom you get to do the work and we'd love to see the finished product.

Sean

Yeah, I thought of that same thing last night...I was wondering if I would really be able to fit 4 points on the cue with the dimensions that I was using. I modified the design slightly and sharpened up and reduced everything a bit more.