what does this mean??

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5/16-14 piloted ivory joint. Not solid ivory but rather ivory over wood.
saw this as a description of a cue

i know what a piloted joint means.
and my understanding of a sleeved joint is really wood (inner ring)/sleeve (outer ring)on one end(joint end) against the base of the shaft.

im still not clear if material of the sleeve affects the hit beyond the wood on wood

any help in clarifying the muddy waters for me would be appreciated:)
 
From what you have described, i would say you are correct about it being a sleeved joint. I honestly dont know if it changes the hit or not compared to a solid ivory joint. Ive seen some cues that are ivory sleeved over phenolic that look pretty good too.

Joe
 
snipershot said:
From what you have described, i would say you are correct about it being a sleeved joint. I honestly dont know if it changes the hit or not compared to a solid ivory joint. Ive seen some cues that are ivory sleeved over phenolic that look pretty good too.

Joe
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thanks for the reply
i hope some others will give an opinion
 
It sounds like a tube joint instead of solid or solid capped. It would make it play just slightl different than solid capped ivory.
 
cueman said:
It sounds like a tube joint instead of solid or solid capped. It would make it play just slightl different than solid capped ivory.
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Is there an advantage to doing it this way? Ive seen several ivory sleeved joints that have cracked. It seems like solid or capped would be stronger and more durable.

Joe
 
James White & Paul Mottey use a solid piloted ivory joint.
Dave Kikel puts a sleeve in all of his ivory joints.

The two cues on the right are James White-solid ivory 5/16-14 piloted.



James White 009 - Copy.jpg
 
Bill Stroud recommends sleeved ivory over phenolic as opposed to capped and solid joints.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=214622&highlight=bill+stroud, post # 7 and 8


It's hard to argue with such a successful cue maker. As for myself, over the years I haven't done that great of an amount of ivory joints so I'm at a loss. Every time I install one this same thought goes through my head so I have no one system. I wish I did as I have one to install right now.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
Bill Stroud recommends sleeved ivory over phenolic as opposed to capped and solid joints.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=214622&highlight=bill+stroud, post # 7 and 8


It's hard to argue with such a successful cue maker. As for myself, over the years I haven't done that great of an amount of ivory joints so I'm at a loss. Every time I install one this same thought goes through my head so I have no one system. I wish I did as I have one to install right now.

Dick
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Well, that changes my view completly. Thanks for the link Dick.

Joe
 
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