What I have noticed

Fatboy

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the word is out that I have been buying cues, the market is soft and I believe the market will come back on some cues, others perhaps not. Tads are waaay soft compaired to years ago and thats too bad I like them alot.

the problem for me is now that the word is out that i'm buying cues I have noticed in the past 6 weeks that the prices on what I want to buy are going up(in my little corner of the world), i'm not upset with anyone, I dont blame anyone for attempting to raise the prices if they feel i'm not paying attention, I consider everyone I have done a deal with a friend and even those I havent I still consider friends, I'm not mad at anyone. Nor am I suprised its negoation like anything else in life. nothing wrong with taking shot but it wont work here, but it dosent bother me-hell i do it everyday working my gigs, its business.

I'm still ready to spend more $$$ on cues, I started this with a specific amount of $$ for cues a few months ago and I still am "Well Healed" but I wont pay an extra $1000 for a Szam as an example, and this is the trend I'm seeing-inflation on any cue Fatboy likes.

So if anyone wants to sell me a cue or a pile of cues its easy to do make me a deal and make the price right(i'm not looking to steal anything). were still friends, your welcome to stay at my house-you guys know who you are i have made the offer to more than a few guys I have done deals with, but I wont over pay for a cue unless there is a real good reason-not a story that comes along with a cue,

We can all be friends if I never buy another cue, i'm not upset at anyone, i'm trying to help you sell me cues, dont price your selfs out of the deal. I'm not desperiate or out of control-infact the oppsite-thats why i have a bankroll and can buy 10 Szams at once if the numbers are good.

and please dont be offended by this post, that wasnt my intent. I'm glad I have friends who want to do business with me but we all have to be reasonable, and like i said if I dont buy a cue so what? lets hook up and have some fun anyways-thats more important than a cue anyday.

now bring me deals-not full pop prices some doctor who is asleep at the wheel might pay or some cue fetish freak, that aint me.

thanks

gentalmen.
 
How does it feel to be the singular driving force that is raising the market value for Szambotis? :rolleyes:

I'm sure you are a great guy and that has been expressed by many respected members of this forum but it seems that you can't make a post without telling us all how wealthy you are. "I could buy 10 Szams" or any of the other numerous claims that you have made only make you seem a little pompous.

I appreciate that you worked hard and acquired wealth. I, luckily, come from a family of significant means but most of the people I associate with in the pool world do not know that because I don't constantly remind them.

Basically what I am saying is that if you continue to tell everyone how rich you are every time you post you should probably expect some individuals will try to capitolize and take advantage. Good luck to you and I hope you regain your health so you can start using some of these toys you are acquiring.
 
Tell every one this!

Screw pool I want to sell all my stuff. Watch there jaws drop and kick back for a while. Have established people buy for you. Like Jim Buss or Marcus or dare I say me? No leave me out of it. But sometimes when you do things like this you either have more fun or hate it. But the prices will drop.
Good luck
Nick :)
 
the boxcue didnt help but a market isnt established on one cue.

there is a very good reason i mention my self made success in some of my posts, in due time you'll see why, and i'm not pompus, i wear rags for cloths, most of them are given to me by friends and I am just a regular guy in day to day living. but there are people who come and go here and they dont read everything i post, so i mention my success so alot of people will know-it will benefit pool, i'm not KT fireing an air barrell. I have a plan Jay knows about it, its a good one, it will be huge and if people dont know who I am or what I have or what I can do the plan wont work. Thus my choice, i never insult people who havent been as lucky as me, i'm sending $$$ to someone who helped me 20 years ago and he dosent know it, i'm very generous-your read on me is partially wrong. i'm cool with that, i just want tro do something big and i'm part of it. trust me, dont hate me.
 
your right one cue doesnt make the market.

however, it makes it weird. u can see this in palmers esp. everyont thinks bc they have a palmer they have a 2000$ cue. i see in all the time being in nj. ppl have pb line palmers, sneaky coversion, and those cheaper palmers with the japaneese forearms from the 70's and want 1500$ plus for them. honestly only a very few palmers bring over 1000$ custom jobs, szam forearms, and the real high ends.
 
Fatboy said:
the boxcue didnt help but a market isnt established on one cue.

there is a very good reason i mention my self made success in some of my posts, in due time you'll see why, and i'm not pompus, i wear rags for cloths, most of them are given to me by friends and I am just a regular guy in day to day living. but there are people who come and go here and they dont read everything i post, so i mention my success so alot of people will know-it will benefit pool, i'm not KT fireing an air barrell. I have a plan Jay knows about it, its a good one, it will be huge and if people dont know who I am or what I have or what I can do the plan wont work. Thus my choice, i never insult people who havent been as lucky as me, i'm sending $$$ to someone who helped me 20 years ago and he dosent know it, i'm very generous-your read on me is partially wrong. i'm cool with that, i just want tro do something big and i'm part of it. trust me, dont hate me.
I was joking about the cue market. I don't think you are a bad guy and I am not hatin' on you. I just wanted you to know how you may come off to people here. If you do not care that is your perrogative. If you are doing this by design I hope the strategy pays off. If you can do something good for pool then I am all for it but I still think it is redundant to regularly voice to all that will listen about your financial ability. I wish you no ill will and I look forward to having the chance to possibly meet you down the road. You appear to me to be a very likeable guy albeit one that enjoys patting himself on the back quite a bit. I wish you nothing but the best in health and wealth. I was just giving you a little insight as to how you may be percieived by others here on AZ.

GL,
Daniel
 
Are you interested in Schon cues or Viking cues or McDermott cues. Or are you just straight custom cues?
 
mikev_wvufan said:
Are you interested in Schon cues or Viking cues or McDermott cues. Or are you just straight custom cues?


I just shot diet coke out my nose. Mike, Fatboy will drop 50k on the right Szam, that's more than the whole cuestix international catalog.
Strictly customs, I'm pretty sure.

Andy
 
Fatboy said:
Thus my choice, i never insult people who havent been as lucky as me, i'm sending $$$ to someone who helped me 20 years ago and he dosent know it, i'm very generous-your read on me is partially wrong. i'm cool with that, i just want tro do something big and i'm part of it. trust me, dont hate me.

Fat boy, if you got it ... there aint nothing wrong in flanting it.
If it makes you happy then that is where it is at.
Sorry if others are not so happy with their position in life.

Me? ... I anit got much ... but I dont need much and am very happy and secure with what I have. Being well off aint anything to be ashamed of ... neither is being a bit poor.

I hope someday my cues will rate the attention of high dollar collectors but if 50 years from now, after I am dead and gone, they are only used by some duffer knocking balls around I will still be happy that I made something someone else values.
 
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Fatboy said:
the boxcue didnt help but a market isnt established on one cue.

there is a very good reason i mention my self made success in some of my posts, in due time you'll see why, and i'm not pompus, i wear rags for cloths, most of them are given to me by friends and I am just a regular guy in day to day living. but there are people who come and go here and they dont read everything i post, so i mention my success so alot of people will know-it will benefit pool, i'm not KT fireing an air barrell. I have a plan Jay knows about it, its a good one, it will be huge and if people dont know who I am or what I have or what I can do the plan wont work. Thus my choice, i never insult people who havent been as lucky as me, i'm sending $$$ to someone who helped me 20 years ago and he dosent know it, i'm very generous-your read on me is partially wrong. i'm cool with that, i just want tro do something big and i'm part of it. trust me, dont hate me.
Posting the money in a recognized escrow, that is legally guaranteed to payout, will alleviate virtually everyone's concerns about you or anybody firing an air barrel.

Do that and watch them come flocking to your tournament/tour/whatever-format.
 
Fatboy said:
Tads are waaay soft compaired to years ago and thats too bad I like them alot.

I'd think this is a good thing if you like Tad and the market is soft .. that way you can buy low.
 
dave sutton said:
your right one cue doesnt make the market.

however, it makes it weird. u can see this in palmers esp. everyont thinks bc they have a palmer they have a 2000$ cue. i see in all the time being in nj. ppl have pb line palmers, sneaky coversion, and those cheaper palmers with the japaneese forearms from the 70's and want 1500$ plus for them. honestly only a very few palmers bring over 1000$ custom jobs, szam forearms, and the real high ends.

I totally agree about the Palmers. When I came up in the pool halls, the Palmer cues were kind of a joke and could be had for little of nothing. They in my opinion, were an average mass produced cue that didn't really play very consistently. I do love the Balner's eye for design with regard to inlay, but I still think of them as low-rent with a few obvious exceptions. Sorry for hi-jacking the thread Fat Boy.
 
I can think of two other large collectors that buy just about every Szam that they can get their hands on. So between you and them up up and away we go. Doesn't take too many well heeled guys wanting the exact same thing to drive the market up when the supply is so limited.
 
AMEN,

Thank you for saying that, i also notice money comes up in every post and that is great but no one cares.



Ktown D said:
How does it feel to be the singular driving force that is raising the market value for Szambotis? :rolleyes:

I'm sure you are a great guy and that has been expressed by many respected members of this forum but it seems that you can't make a post without telling us all how wealthy you are. "I could buy 10 Szams" or any of the other numerous claims that you have made only make you seem a little pompous.

I appreciate that you worked hard and acquired wealth. I, luckily, come from a family of significant means but most of the people I associate with in the pool world do not know that because I don't constantly remind them.

Basically what I am saying is that if you continue to tell everyone how rich you are every time you post you should probably expect some individuals will try to capitolize and take advantage. Good luck to you and I hope you regain your health so you can start using some of these toys you are acquiring.
 
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