WHAT IS AN "L" CHANNEL VENNEER ?

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in a post trying to sell a black boar cue this was written
bird's-eye maple forearm/ 3 deep knifed ebony with secondary deep knife tulipwood* points and deep knifed inlays of 🐘 L-channel veneers*
i guess i will also ask what is a
"deep knifed point or inlays"
thanks in advance
i apologize for my ignorance
i am not a cue maker
 
The person who wrote that isn't a cuemaker either, so it's just his terminology. It sounds like normal half splice points with veneers, 3 hi 3 lo. But to be certain post a picture.
 
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MVPCues said:
The person who wrote that isn't a cuemaker either, so it's just his terminology. It sounds like normal half splice points with veneers, 3 hi 3 lo. But to be certain post a picture.
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i couldnt upload the pic i took from the post (file too large)
so here is a link to the pics

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Seemless veneer look can be achieved with what we call recuts. Meaning the black outer point was put in the cue then another point was recut inside it. But someone with the right set up could cut an L shaped piece of wood that would serve as the black outer part of the points to be glued in at the same time as the inner point piece, instead of recutting them in later. I would assume Deep knifed means they are not shallow inlays or flat bottom points. He could also just be describing V groove point work with glued up black veneer for points.
 
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Let me try to help you understand.
First you need to know Tony, builder of Black Boar cues. If you have never talked with him I would highly suggest you make an appt to sit down and buy him a beer. Knifing in points has been a terminology he has used for years. Basically doing "recuts" for those not in the know. What is a recut you ask? A recut veneer is a single piece of wood that is glued into a point pocket in the forearm during the build and then using the exact same setup used to cut the point pocket the additional piece of wood that was just added is cut in the same procedure as the point pocket originally was.... just not as deep, leaving a thin line of what ever added wood was additionally glued in the original pocket. A recut veneer. There you have it, clear as mud. Example A... outside maple veneer...028 thick... next, tulipwood...080...next ebony...030 thick....next is the tulipwood point. Each piece individually glued in place and then "recut" just not as deep, to allow what you see in the picture.

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OR IS IT ALWAYS DONE THAT WAY?

Years ago someone came up with a different idea to give a better option of quality control on each veneer and allow the builder to do "one (1) glue up" on a forearm utilizing as many different seamless veneers at the point as one would like in each point pocket. By cutting each .030 thick veneer first from a single piece of wood it allows one to cut pockets in the forearm one time and do the glue up in one setting. A few examples...
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HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU ASK?
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.030 THICK INDIVDUAL VENEER PIECES CUT OUTSIDE THE CUE FIRST. THAT'S HOW!

Same end result to get to a "recut look"....2 different paths taken.


I have no idea why the bold button is stuck in the on position and can not be turned off. :unsure:

 
thanks for all the replies...... (y)
chris thanks for adding more detail
barrenbrugge thank you very much for your very detailed description and wonderful pictures to give as examples
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Let me try to help you understand.
First you need to know Tony, builder of Black Boar cues. If you have never talked with him I would highly suggest you make an appt to sit down and buy him a beer. Knifing in points has been a terminology he has used for years. Basically doing "recuts" for those not in the know. What is a recut you ask? A recut veneer is a single piece of wood that is glued into a point pocket in the forearm during the build and then using the exact same setup used to cut the point pocket the additional piece of wood that was just added is cut in the same procedure as the point pocket originally was.... just not as deep, leaving a thin line of what ever added wood was additionally glued in the original pocket. A recut veneer. There you have it, clear as mud. Example A... outside maple veneer...028 thick... next, tulipwood...080...next ebony...030 thick....next is the tulipwood point. Each piece individually glued in place and then "recut" just not as deep, to allow what you see in the picture.

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OR IS IT ALWAYS DONE THAT WAY?

Years ago someone came up with a different idea to give a better option of quality control on each veneer and allow the builder to do "one (1) glue up" on a forearm utilizing as many different seamless veneers at the point as one would like in each point pocket. By cutting each .030 thick veneer first from a single piece of wood it allows one to cut pockets in the forearm one time and do the glue up in one setting. A few examples...
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HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU ASK?
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.030 THICK INDIVDUAL VENEER PIECES CUT OUTSIDE THE CUE FIRST. THAT'S HOW!

Same end result to get to a "recut look"....2 different paths taken.


I have no idea why the bold button is stuck in the on position and can not be turned off. :unsure:
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Your pictures are worth far more than a thousand of my words trying to explain this. Thanks for sharing.
 
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