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tonythetiger583

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So for a stop shot, you can either hit the CB in the center as hard as you want and stop the ball dead. Or you can time your draw so that the ball runs out of spin just before it hits the Object ball. I've noticed that when I'm trying to use the tangent line, the ball comes off the rail funny if I punch it, but it reacts much more naturally if I time the draw. I also feel like the ball travels further.

Can someone tell me what is happening? Is it my stroke?

At first I thought I was imparting a ton of unintentional inside when I tried to punch the ball over cause it would come off the rail at a sharper angle and just die.
 
This really boils down to how far you are from the OB. If you are relatively close, lower center is spot you need to hit. If it's a far shot, you need to hit bottom of the CB. You need to use your own judgement because everyone has different amounts of power they use to shoot each shot. A gentle shot or hard shot can mean something entirely different to someone else.

Hitting as hard as you want to get a stun shot is really unnecessary and higher chance of a miss.
 
Suggest for you to post your thread in the ask the instructor page a lot of good help comes from there.

A true stop shot should be "sliding" as it contacts the object ball.

A draw shot that runs out of backspin before it strikes the object ball is more of a "kill" shot than a stop shot.

The cueball doesn't 'lie" set up a straight in shot (use Bob Jewett's progressive practice) and practice stopping the ball without any side spin after contact. if you can consistently do that you are well on your way.
 
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It sounds like you are hitting the ball hard when you 'punch' it. The cueball will pick up english from the cut...it may be picking up more when you 'punch' it.

Depending on the angle the cueball then goes into the rail, it can kill the rebound.
 
Just a thought, but it seems like you're used to seeing the cue ball come off the rail with a touch of natural running english picked up from contact with the object ball. When shooting with a firmer punch stroke though, the english doesn't take as much off the rail and you get the sharper angles that you're seeing. It's like when kicking firmly into the rail with english, the ball will rebound off the rail with less english than one would would expect.

Could be a lot of things, though...
 
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tonythetiger583 said:
So for a stop shot, you can either hit the CB in the center as hard as you want and stop the ball dead. Or you can time your draw so that the ball runs out of spin just before it hits the Object ball. I've noticed that when I'm trying to use the tangent line, the ball comes off the rail funny if I punch it, but it reacts much more naturally if I time the draw. I also feel like the ball travels further.

Can someone tell me what is happening? Is it my stroke?

At first I thought I was imparting a ton of unintentional inside when I tried to punch the ball over cause it would come off the rail at a sharper angle and just die.
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As per my signature, without defining 'funny' there is little way to make sense of what is going on.

FWIW, I've not noticed such an effect between slower sliding shots and punch stuns, other than the later travel further for a given angle.

Colin
 
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