what is recon ebony and recon ivory??????????
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Just a guess
I've never heard of recon ebony or ivory. My guess would be something like recon(stituted) stone. They pulverize stone scraps, mix it with an acrylic resin and mold it into usable shapes (rod and sheet). For instance, Atlas and other suppliers offer recon stone inlay slabs. I suppose they could do the same with ebony and ivory scraps.
I've never heard of recon ebony or ivory. My guess would be something like recon(stituted) stone. They pulverize stone scraps, mix it with an acrylic resin and mold it into usable shapes (rod and sheet). For instance, Atlas and other suppliers offer recon stone inlay slabs. I suppose they could do the same with ebony and ivory scraps.
Pretty much what Bill said. They take the scraps and grind then mix with a resin to make it look like the real stuff. Sort of like MDF board. Yea, like the dust from the real deal wasn't bad enough, lets mix in a resin plus god knows what ever else they threw in with it. Most of that stuff is REALLY not good for your lungs (overall health) If you use it, be sure to wear a really good respirator mask , have a dust collection unit and run an air cleaner in the shop for about 2 hrs. later. Just My Advice
Dave
Dave
dave sutton
Banned
That's how the new emerald tips are made by tiger. I don't like them one bit honestly
When someone hears the word recon they usually visualize a scrap or material in an unusable form being reconstituted into something more easily utilized. Since most products don't hold up well to being broke down into components and then reformed such as plastic the product must be put back together with some form of matrix. That's what recon stone supposedly is. Stones broke up and made into blocks with the use of some matrix that can be sawed into shapes that can now be easily used. Now when a manufacturer puts a name onto something their name doesn't necessarily mean what you would think it does. Their recon name may stand for plastic or maple stained black. Who knows unless you work at McDermott.
Dick
Recon ebony and ivory
I was interested in one of the 2010 COTY cues. After reading the cue descriptions, and seeing these terms used, I emailed McDermott for an explanation of recon ebony and ivory.
This is what I received:
"These are both man-made synthetic materials that we use as substitutes for genuine Ebony and Ivory. We use them to keep the cost of the cue in a
reasonable price point. These materials are also more durable and stable. They are less likely to warp, crack, or cause problems than their genuine
counterparts."
I was interested in one of the 2010 COTY cues. After reading the cue descriptions, and seeing these terms used, I emailed McDermott for an explanation of recon ebony and ivory.
This is what I received:
"These are both man-made synthetic materials that we use as substitutes for genuine Ebony and Ivory. We use them to keep the cost of the cue in a
reasonable price point. These materials are also more durable and stable. They are less likely to warp, crack, or cause problems than their genuine
counterparts."
Recon, what a joke. I was really interested in the McDermott G1904
the 2010 Cue of the year "special edition" only 50 made but in typical production cue maker fashion they ruin it with short cuts. That cue has a killer design and would have been a monster of a cue using Gaboon Ebony & Real Ivory.
Your mistake was looking at McDermott's from a collector standpoint. If your really serious about collecting then get a 1 of 1 from a custom cuemaker. But I do agree, nothing like the real thing.
recon material
I've used a lot of the recon material over the years as a knifemaker. I don't think there is any of the matural material in any of the recon material. It all cuts, grinds and polishes like plastic. I think the recon is just a gimmick to get someone to buy it. At least McD stated the truth about what they were using as a recon, and not trying to make you think it was something else.
Good luck.
Percy/Knifemaker
I've used a lot of the recon material over the years as a knifemaker. I don't think there is any of the matural material in any of the recon material. It all cuts, grinds and polishes like plastic. I think the recon is just a gimmick to get someone to buy it. At least McD stated the truth about what they were using as a recon, and not trying to make you think it was something else.
Good luck.
Percy/Knifemaker
The real thing is very nice but...
The problem is, as soon as you relax the restrictions on ivory, elephants start dying. They tried allowing some of the old ivory to be sold and almost immediately poachers started killing elephants. If anyone doesn't see why that matters, (or even if you do) go to youtube, type in "Shirley the elephant" and watch videos 1 & 2. They give new meaning to the words "solitary confinement" and "love". Then, check out www.elephants.com.
After all that, you should know why ivory needs to be off limits.
The problem is, as soon as you relax the restrictions on ivory, elephants start dying. They tried allowing some of the old ivory to be sold and almost immediately poachers started killing elephants. If anyone doesn't see why that matters, (or even if you do) go to youtube, type in "Shirley the elephant" and watch videos 1 & 2. They give new meaning to the words "solitary confinement" and "love". Then, check out www.elephants.com.
After all that, you should know why ivory needs to be off limits.
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It means "colored plastic replacement for..." McDonald's has been using it in their cues for years. One reason why I have never purchased one of their cues.
I don't care what material McD uses in their COTY models, black stuff...white stuff, it doesn't make any difference in how the cue looks. They are producing some of the finest examples of cue artisanship with space age materials. The rest of the world is still playing catch up.
It's ridiculous to think that because McDermott covers a wide variety in this market that they are considered a cookie cutter corporation. You can order just about anything you like exactly how you want it. I could walk in there tomorrow, design something I like, and have it EXACTLY how I want it in 4-8 weeks. As for the animal and cost friendly materials, is it really that important to show off your ivory hardware to your friends?
They put a lifetime warranty and maintenance on everything they produce and I know of nobody who will re-tip/clean/buff/re-wrap a cue for it's lifetime.
I don't know about everyone else but I'd much rather have a plain $400 or intricate $1500 cue that feels like part of my arm than a $5,000 cue to show to my buddies.
They put a lifetime warranty and maintenance on everything they produce and I know of nobody who will re-tip/clean/buff/re-wrap a cue for it's lifetime.
I don't know about everyone else but I'd much rather have a plain $400 or intricate $1500 cue that feels like part of my arm than a $5,000 cue to show to my buddies.
Taijidragon
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nO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO ACT, AND THINK DIFFERENTLY DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT THOSE AWESOME ELEPHANTS !:frown:
