What is the UPA doing?

Gremlin said:
Joe,

You type like a reactionary fool. The US Open got in trouble because the cash didn't equal the payouts and the local John Laws were looking for publicity in an election year so they busted Berry who had been serving alcohol to minors for years.

As far as i know a nice guy like Danny Herriman still hasn't been paid the money that is owed him by Berry. So I have a different perception of the US Open than you. I will never see it or even think about it.

The DCC as of right now has no pro women just like Valley Forge so I will never go to them again till the pro women are back. I came to this game (It's not a sport) because I love it. The Tokyo 9-Ball was the greatest tournament in the history of pool and my first tournament. Ever since then all greedy pool people have been doing is destroying it. You stick the DCC and the US Open you know where. Don't let the pool promoters get you by your N.U.T.S. :p

Great!!!
Sounds like I will never have to run into you at either event.
You stand up to those greedy tyrants!
We should run pool without promoters (damn tyrants!)
Or ONLY go with Dragon events. Yeah, cause Charlie is doing what's good for pool. Yeaaah.
My post was not a reaction spurred by one post. It was something cooked from the ingredients you have bee providing for some while now.

PS - You spelled everyone's name wrong.

PPS -You're a wanker
 
concerning dates of DCC

cardiac kid said:
OK now, lets get back to the original premise of this thread. The dates for the DCC and the Bicycle UPA event. In past years, the DCC was held the third full week in the month of January. The Bicycle was held the first full week in January last year and scheduled for that time frame next year. Perhaps someone here should ask Greg Sullivan why he scheduled the DCC on the UPA weekend! I think you have it backwords!!!!! :confused:

By the way, I still think forcing the regional tours to bow to the demands of the UPA is rediculous. I understand the need for one governing body. Holding a gun to the heads of the regional promoters is not going to achieve that result. I ask one simple question. What will the regional tours get in return for a UPA sanction? Think long and hard before you answer!
CardiacKid, Glad for the chance to explain about the dates.
PAST DCC's
1st DCC Jan 22 - Jan 30 1999
2nd DCC Feb 4 - Feb 12 2000
3rd DCC Jan 26 - Feb 3 2001
4th DCC Jan 4 - Jan 12 2002
5th DCC Jan 3 - Jan 11 2003
6th DCC Jan 16 - Jan 24 2004
7th DCC Jan 14 - Jan 22 2005
COMING DCC's
8th DCC Jan 6 - Jan 14 2006
9th DCC Jan 5 - Jan 13 2007
10th DCC Jan 4 - Jan 12 2008
TBA

The first 3 years were year by year contracts with the motel. As the event grew I signed a five year agreement. I've been jumping around in Jan avoiding a big farm show or home show, I'm not exactly sure which at this time. Anyway, other than the 2000 event I've been in Jan and will try and stay there. I've now signed another 5 year agreement thru 2011, but I can't tell you all the exact dates from memory. I'll definitely post them later on my web site for the DCC. The only reason I remember the next couple years is that they go down 1 day a year closer to New Years Eve and I have a hard time getting setup help during those dates......I know the 11th DCC will most likely go back to the middle of Jan......................
I'd like to say that there is no way I'd intensionally conflict with any event. Nor would I move them at the last minute in harms way. The 8th DCC for 2006 has been on the books since 2001! I wouldn't want to put any player in that spot. I must add that I'm COMPLETELY satisfied that Charlie Williams and the UPA DID NOT try to conflict with the DCC. I've heard that the UPA's dates are not in stone and every effort is being taken to fix things. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!....................
I'd like to add that Charlie has been very helpful the last few years at the DCC. He took on the job of selecting players overseas that I have been helping with entries and rooms as well providing me a list of the UPA points winners so I could do the same with players in the states. I'ts my job to try and get the best players I can at the DCC for the spectators as well as lesser players trying to win games against them. The short races and drueling format is tuff enough.....I must add that I'm honored the DCC is even mentioned along with events as the US Open, but I must say the DCC was not designed as a format for Pro Pool. It was designed by me to I guess I'll say "Please Me". I hope that doesn't sound selfish, It's just I wanted to try it my way!..................
I started to go into my feelings on the direction of the UPA, but I won't go into detail at this time. I'll only say I wish I could have had a chance to sanction with a pool players association ; then the date issue would not have happened!.............

Greg/Diamond
 
Greg/Diamond said:
CardiacKid, Glad for the chance to explain about the dates.
PAST DCC's
1st DCC Jan 22 - Jan 30 1999
2nd DCC Feb 4 - Feb 12 2000
3rd DCC Jan 26 - Feb 3 2001
4th DCC Jan 4 - Jan 12 2002
5th DCC Jan 3 - Jan 11 2003
6th DCC Jan 16 - Jan 24 2004
7th DCC Jan 14 - Jan 22 2005
COMING DCC's
8th DCC Jan 6 - Jan 14 2006
9th DCC Jan 5 - Jan 13 2007
10th DCC Jan 4 - Jan 12 2008
TBA
Greg/Diamond

Greg,
With the growth factor included;
when the city of Louisville builds you a stadium for the 300 tables you need for the 10,000 pool players that signup for the 2012 event... I wish you luck.. the camera crews will probably take up 1000 rooms at the nearest hotel.

If you play pool and want to have the experience of you life... the DCC is the only place to be.
 
Greg/Diamond said:
I'd like to add that Charlie has been very helpful the last few years at the DCC. He took on the job of selecting players overseas that I have been helping with entries and rooms as well providing me a list of the UPA points so I could do the same with players in the states.
winners Greg/Diamond

Wait-Are you saying he gave you names that you had to pay entry fees and hotels for but you don't get sanctioning and you are calling this help?
 
Hi Greg,

Thanks for the reply. As you know, I have the greatest respect for you and your products. The original thread topic became a UPA bashing for their choice of dates. Only the UPA board knows why they sometimes choose conflict. The paid membership is in the dark. The DCC/Bicycle date conflict obviously has two sides. The interested posters on this thread are waiting to hear from the UPA. Given the choice of LA, Vegas for the 2006 electronics show or the DCC, I'm in Louisville!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Zuglan's Joss Northeast Tour recently scheduled a $25,000 added event at the Turning Stone Casino and Hotel for the last weekend in August. I'm waiting to see if a schedule conflict suddenly pops up for that event. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing you somewhere in Vegas next month. Thanks for doing what you do best.
 
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