What Is Up With Master Chalk?

3kushn said:
Obviously something is wrong. I'm thinking a One Off thing.
I've complained that Master is too hard. Just the opposite.
Of course if you have patience (I don't) the cube gets softer.

I've never experienced a cube of Masters dusting up like that!!
Not ever... For 40+years.

Of course Master/Tweeten Fibre will back up their products.
Zero Doubts on that!!
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Never had it happen before either -- been using it for decades.

Lou Figueroa
 
Rusty in Montana said:
Lou , I don't have a clue but if this continues I may become a Taom chalk user .

I've tried predator chalk and didn't care for it and traded what I had left over for some masters chalk , which I've got a few cubes remaining that aren't quite as bad as that .
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I might have to switch too.

Lou Figueroa
 
slide13 said:
Gross. Been using Taom lately but have used Masters plenty until recently and never experienced anything like that.

Did you buy it from a reputable source? I wouldn’t think anybody would be faking Masters, it’s already dirt cheap, but ya never know if it’s from EBay or something.
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I bought it through Amazon.

I did go back and note that the source was a company called: Y2Play! which I've never heard of before.

Lou Figueroa
 
Clusterbuster said:
I’ll second the folks who have had this issue and gone to Taom. My whole hand would turn blue after an extended session on my home table. I switched to Taom and I have only cleaned my table once in about 3 or 4 months and it didn’t need it then. And the Taom lasts forever. You pay $18 or so for a single piece but the last one I had was still looking almost brand new after 4 or 5 months and I lost it. Got another one and it’s still going strong. With the nominal cost of Taom over months or a year vs. the mess of Masters, I’m never going back. I’ll also add, I don’t think Taom performs better in terms of preventing miscues. It’s just incredibly cleaner.
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I guess I just never had an issue with Master before, until now, so I had no motivation to switch.

Lou Figueroa
 
Zerksies said:
The crappy pool hall i was going to only supplied overused master chalk so i switched to Taom. I used master chalk for over 20+ years too.

As far as the dimple being bigger i would say that they are supplying less to make them money.

As far as being softer, possibly they changed the formula, But i have noticed that humidity effects the feel of the chalk
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No humidity issue on my end.

The box arrived sealed and I keep it at home.

Lou Figueroa
 
Welder84 said:
Lou, pass your concerns on to the manufacturer. If they don't know there is a problem, they can't fix it.
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I'll probably get around to letting Tweeten know.

For now, I've ordered another box, this time the source is Hawley's. Look for a partially used box of Master Blue in the FS Fororum, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
stewie said:
now that you wrote this: 2 or 3 weeks ago at my regular pool hall, my left hand looked the same as yours. Once in a while this happens and I always wondered why just sometimes. The place always has Master and usually plenty and in pretty good shape. We blamed the heat/humidity. It was one of those days much warmer than the day before here in New York and it was pretty packed without AC, yet.

But thinking again I also noticed the 2 cubes we took had slightly different shades. One was more blue, the other more turquoise/petrol. Maybe there is some variance in quality? Plus humidity? With 20+ tables they should have noticed more dirt, but I didn't ask.
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I think the stuff I got looks the same color but I've never had anywhere near this much residue come off so quickly.

It's nuts.

Lou Figueroa
 
Sounds like a knock off got you. It's so inexpensive as it is, why not buy from a reputable source like Seybert's or Pool Dawg?

seyberts.com

Master Gross Chalk

Master billiard chalk has the texture that transforms smoothly and evenly to leather cue tips - available in 144 piece gross box at seyberts.com.
seyberts.com seyberts.com

www.pooldawg.com

Master Chalk (Box of 144 Cubes)

The ever-popular Master Chalk is widely considered to be one of the best chalks on the market. Made by Tweeten Fibre of Chicago, Master Chalk has an outstanding texture that coats pool cue tips smoothly and evenly. This proper coating helps to prevent costly miscues when breaking or making a...
www.pooldawg.com www.pooldawg.com
Not sure why they are 40% more than Seybert's.

Here's the seller information from Amazon for "Y2Play". Perhaps you can get a refund. It seems odd to me a music store is selling pool chalk.

Music Emporium, Inc.

www.musicemporiuminc.com www.musicemporiuminc.com

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lfigueroa said:
Don't know.

But chalk is so cheap I don't know why anyone would bother ripping it off.

Lou Figueroa
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I am feeling more confident that you got a counterfeit box. The reason why I’m leaning this way is that while I agree, Master chalk is typically inexpensive, this would be so easy and cheap to knock off it would be like free money for them. They could use something like wallboard compound tinted blue, amazingly cheap and easy peasey.

Added to this is your purchase source is suspect. An individual or a random unknown company on Amazon is exactly the kind of setting where knockoff products are plentiful.

How many times I’ve heard people complain about the poor performance their kamui tip provided them and when asked where they got it it was ebay or Amazon or similar. Unless you purchased from an authorized dealer, you are gambling!!!

I remember right after hurricane katrina there was a major shortage of sheetrock needed to rebuild and what was available was going for crazy high money then like magic sheetrock began showing up from China in huge quantities and for just 8 bucks or so per sheet. Consumers gobbled them up and Louisiana, Mississippi, and a few other surrounding states began the process of rebuilding. Fast forward a few months and the terrible reality started to show its very ugly head. Some of you may recall, “toxic sheetrock” from China where after installation people began getting sick, copper pipes in these homes sprang leaks, even some reports of jewelery left on night stands would oxidize overnight while sleeping. Wtf!

Lou, if I were you I definitely wouldn’t let that shit get anywhere near my skin again.

best,
brian kc
 
lfigueroa said:
Been a fan Master for years and have had no interest in all the newer chalks.

For quite a while now I have bought the occasional box and take a few new pieces with me to the pool hall or tournament in a pouch. Very recently I bought another box. The first thing I noticed about the chalk cubes in this new box was that the holes in the chalk were drilled/formed a bit deeper than previously. No biggie. But now, having gone though over a dozen pieces, I can tell that, at least from the box I got, the chalk is a different, *much* softer formulation. I mean, I could probably go through a cube of this newer chalk in one extended session of four to six hours.

And my hands.

After just a couple of hours, my chalking hand is blue -- really blue. If I play for four hours or longer, we're talking Smurf hand. I can't imagine how much chalk is landing on the cloth. Anyone else?

Lou Figueroa
two hours play
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I don't know what to tell you about the new Master chalk. I recently tried TAOM Pyro (older version of the TAOM offerings) and I have to say it leaves no marks on the CB to contribute to skids and it lasts forever. Some people say it keeps the table cleaner. I don't buy this, but all chalk will dirty the table up some.

The big thing is not losing your $30 chalk. I keep my TAOM in this little metal case I had lying around. Anyway, it has worked well for me. I have always thought the "$25-dollar-chalk-movement" was stupid, but I think the TAOM chalk is very good...it better be. I have been using the same cube of chalk for a month, and it looks brand new.

kollegedave
 
Lou, I think you are right on. Rusty's had a brand new gross box of chalk sitting out on Tuesday. I thought they looked a little deep.

Yesterday, I played my weekly game in Dallas with all new blue Masters chalk. From 3:30 till about 11:10, used about 5 or 6 cubes. I

do not like deep holes in my chalk, so I kept getting chalk off next table (players quit). I was thinking that the chalk was not lasting very long.

My hands are always blue after playing. I used to not wash my hands after playing when I was younger. Wanted to assyre my wife I had been

playing pool.:ROFLMAO: Joke, sort of. Nearly been married 51 years.
 
3 months ago I bought a new magnetic chalk holder, in order to get free shipping I had to spend an extra $10 dollars so I took the plunge and bought a round of the Taom v10, cost me $20.00 but but at least I would know if all the claims made about it were true, first impression was that's a big hole in the center of that chalk, no way that's gonna last, 3 months later doesn't look any different than the first day I used it, the tip holds this chalk a little bit better but not $20 worth, you don't have to chalk every shot but that's part of my pre-shot routine any way, but it is WAY cleaner, I noticed there is no or little chalk dust on the cue ball, is that worth it? If this chalk lasts for a year and retains it's current properties I would say yes, I can almost guarantee you will blow more money than this on something pool related that doesn't work, by the way the chalk holder came with a holder for both standard chalk and the Toam, How often does a pool player get a win-win?
 
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