What killed the slip stroke?

[JPB2]

Yeah, that first few seconds of the time stamped video shows the back hand of a slip stroke. Good work finding and posting that particular shot. Cisero pauses more in transition than others typically might with the slip stroke.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... It sure seems dumb to intentionally leave the stick in place at the cb, then slip the hand back several inches to a foot, then squeeze the cue on the final forward stroke and strike the ball. The stick has no momentum in that case, and only the hand does, picking up the stick for the ride.

I think you don't have the motion right. How about:

Hold the stick a hand or a hand and a half forward of the "orthodox, perpendicular" grip position. That is, in fact, where a lot of the old timers routinely held the stick. For hyper-control at 14.1, it can work.

Now you come to a power shot. You have to do something else to get the power. From the set position, slide your hand back to the orthodox grip position, grab the cue, continue bringing your hand back, and then come forward for the power stroke.

 

[jlrowe]

I was good friends with Cornbread Red for a few years before he passed away. He had one helluva slip stroke. He didnt use it all the time but he could use it on almost any shot. I tried learning it but i found it was difficult. It was something i had to think about and for me it was difficult to hit the cueball with accuracy and i had to use a hard stroke because when i slid my hand back on the last stroke i feel like i need to rush the shot forward. Of course it was no problem for Red.

 

[straightline]

I din't read this thread, but have read a few others on this topic over the years, and seen the tiny bit of video evidence that is out there for a slip stroke from 1950.

Maybe it wasn't even really a technique? Maybe the hand was just moving around a bit to get settled in during the practice swings.

It sure seems dumb to intentionally leave the stick in place at the cb, then slip the hand back several inches to a foot, then squeeze the cue on the final forward stroke and strike the ball. The stick has no momentum in that case, and only the hand does, picking up the stick for the ride.

You could do that - pinch the bridge so you can slide your backhand. Anything post that couldn't be any worse than Hopkins' delivery. (?)

 

[Baby Huey]

In the early to middle 60's when the Family Billiard program, which Brunswick sponsored, Mosconi was the main Exhibition person. He ran a hundred balls every time I watched him. That was at least 10 times. He wanted brand new felt and unused Centennial Balls for his play. He did not use the SLIP STROKE all the time. Mostly used on his break shot. Earlier a poster said it was difficult to "Slip" being down so low on the cue ball and I agree. Some of his Trick Shots did require a tremendous stroke and his "Slip" was flawless. Of course the Masse' required a tight grip on the butt with no "Slip" there.