What kind of spot do I need at 1P?

Alex Kanapilly said:
... The more I learn about this game the more I think beginers have no shot at it. You just have to take your lumps. ...
So come take your lumps at Derby City. Maybe you can get some lumps from Efren. You will at least get to see a lot of formal and informal play.
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
OH, what would HE say? I'm guessing he'd go for the 50/game but not the 15-5. Maybe he would. [...]/QUOTE]

But that's the point. The bigger the spot, the higher the bet. For you, you're willing to play him even if it's cheap. But if the $$ goes up, you want your chance to go up too.

Here's another way. Tell him you'll play $50 sets with no ball spot but where you get one game on the wire. He can choose the length of the set.

It's interesting to see how someone responds to this. You get some information about what he really thinks about the way he can match up with you.

I do this with a local fellow in 9-ball. I can't keep up with him even. So my standing offer to him is I'll play $20 9-ball sets if I get one game and $50 9-ball sets if I get two games. He can pick the match length. If he picks a long match length, he's pretty much guaranteed to win, but it takes him a long time to empty my pockets. At shorter match lengths he risks losing sets.

I even let him change the match length every match if he wants. He's gotten burned when he's feeling good and shortening the match length to try to run over me a little faster.
 
Bob Jewett said:
So come take your lumps at Derby City. Maybe you can get some lumps from Efren. You will at least get to see a lot of formal and informal play.

I'm planning on it, can't wait!
 
OK. I'm at The Break, in Cahokia, now. Chesterfield folded.

Lou Figueroa


Alex Kanapilly said:
lfigueroa said:
Aw hell I don't know, 18 months, 2 years, I can't remember. Yeah, If you call handing you 20's sporty, I guess I played pretty sporty.

hey, I'm coming out there in a couple of weeks. I'll try you some again if we can find a time that works.

Alex
 
Mike, a little birdie (there most be a flock in here somewhere) told me that your game has gone up several notches since the purchase and installation of your table. But I will still try and give you a game next time you're in town :-)

Lou Figueroa


mikepage said:
Alex Kanapilly said:
Cool... Guess I played pretty sporty against Lou as well....
 
lfigueroa said:
Alex, will you have enough 1pocket miles by then to play in that event?

Lou Figueroa

Maybe, if I really start playing and working on it. I doubt I would have much of a chance at beating anyone except a newbie like myself. I might do it but I'm not sure how long I'll be able to stay so I might just go to watch/participate in the action. I'm subliminally planting the idea into my wife's head...

Alex
 
A couple of years ago Mark gave Joey Scotchell from Morgantown
13-5 on his own (Scotchell's) table & ate him up. Scotchell is one
of the best 1 hole players in NC West Virginia.

Alex Kanapilly said:
I just want to know what a reasonable spot is, I just need a chance to win, not a lock.

I can run racks in 9b and 8b, 4 in a row is my best in both. High run is 62 but that was a miracle, I'd do well to get into the 30's, but I don't play that game.

The top guys around town offer me 9-7 but I can't get there with that. I've gotten 10-7 from a couple of them and beat them or broke even.

I've only been playing 1p a couple of years now and by no means every day, probably a few times a month. So I would say I'm a better 9b or bar box 8b player by far than a 1p player so far.

So anyway, if I wanted to play some some for 20 or 50 a game, what would I need from a guy like Mark Hadad (who's probably the best in Denver)? I'm thinking 10-5 but I don't know.

Alex
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
Maybe, if I really start playing and working on it. I doubt I would have much of a chance at beating anyone except a newbie like myself. I might do it but I'm not sure how long I'll be able to stay so I might just go to watch/participate in the action. I'm subliminally planting the idea into my wife's head...

Alex
Alex, I've played the 1-hole the last two years at the Derby City and miraculously won my first match both times. So, if I can win a match at DCC, then anyone can. The cost to watch the events is about the same as the cost to play one of the events. Playing allows you to watch all week without extra cost.

Incidentally, I lost to Gerald Reichle who just came in second in the 1-pocket division in Louisville, and to Ike Runnels who I don't have to say anything about except for "wow."

Fred
 
1p is real tricky to spot when it's a 1hole player vs a 9baller. It's different when a couple of guys who play a lot of 9ball go at it, because they are both shot makers and the game can equal itself out with a ball here or there, or the break.

Now, get a strong 1p mover and the spot to an inexperienced player can go through the roof without there being too much pressure on the 1p player. Since you can play, try making a "hand span" game where you can move the CB one hand span on your turn. Maybe play your scratches don't count or something to that effect.

I played real strong 1p players back in the day when I played fairly sporty 9ball. I was told I will never "out move them", so I should go for the low %shot, and try to run out. That did work since we were playing like 9/5 or 10/6 since I played good 14.1 and could run balls. Over all the pressure was on ME. a real good mover to an inexperienced player is super hard to beat.

good luck man, let us know how you make out.

Gerry
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
lfigueroa said:
Aw hell I don't know, 18 months, 2 years, I can't remember. Yeah, If you call handing you 20's sporty, I guess I played pretty sporty.

hey, I'm coming out there in a couple of weeks. I'll try you some again if we can find a time that works.

Alex

Alex,

If you ever get back out here (SF Bay Area) let me know. There's non-stop 1p action at the place I play. $5/game on up. Hard to get equitable spots though :)

Cheers,
RC
 
hondo said:
A couple of years ago Mark gave Joey Scotchell from Morgantown
13-5 on his own (Scotchell's) table & ate him up. Scotchell is one
of the best 1 hole players in NC West Virginia.

Holy crap. I saw him last night at a tough local tournament and I'm thinking I should just take lessons from him. He made a draw shot... full length of the table between cb and ob, the cue ball came back a full table length and broke out a cluster and he ran out. If that cue ball hadn't hit the cluster, it would have gone all the way back up table. I can't do that.

Alex
 
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