what kind of wood is this?

bruin70

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it's what schon used to use for some of its joint protectors. very very fine black grain lines interlacing with very golden veins.

it looks like a laminate of about 1/16" pieces.

is it a real wood? feels like it
 

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bruin70 said:
it's what schon used to use for some of its joint protectors. very very fine black grain lines interlacing with very golden veins.

it looks like a laminate of about 1/16" pieces.

is it a real wood? feels like it

It is a laminate and started out a real wood. It's called Pakkawood, or sometimes I've heard it refered to as "diamondwood". It's used a lot for knife handles and is also used on the Diamond bar tables for the rail caps instead of using a formica type laminate. It's basically wood veneers that are stabilized with a resin and laminated together under extreme pressure. It's great for some things. I've experimented using it in cues, for butterfly's. It works pretty well, but is not always consistant in the thickness. It comes in dowells and flat sheets. It can be used with or without finish and will buff up quite well if no finish is used.

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
JoeyInCali said:
From the second picture, it sure does.
I thought it was Dymondwood first.


Yeah I agree, the picture does look a lot like black palm, but the description he gave about the 1/16" laminations and the fact that Schon did make JP's out of the Pakkawood, Dymond Wood or whatever the manufacturers name for the impregnated laminated veneers, makes me think the pics aren't clear enough to tell. As I mentioned in another thread, I don't put a lot of faith in pictures of wood. There can be so much variation depending on lighting, camera, and photographer's skills that often, you really need to see it in person and in good light. You may be surprised at the difference you will see between flourescent lights and outside in the natural sun light. It's quite a difference!

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
JoeyInCali said:
From the second picture, it sure does.
I thought it was Dymondwood first.
and of course it could be Pakkawood made from Black Palm! It's available in various woods!
 
additional pics. is this stuff easily obtainable. only used for smallsmall inlays. the goldish colors are really very shimmering, you just can't see that here.
 

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cuesmith said:
Yeah I agree, the picture does look a lot like black palm, but the description he gave about the 1/16" laminations and the fact that Schon did make JP's out of the Pakkawood, Dymond Wood or whatever the manufacturers name for the impregnated laminated veneers, makes me think the pics aren't clear enough to tell. As I mentioned in another thread, I don't put a lot of faith in pictures of wood. There can be so much variation depending on lighting, camera, and photographer's skills that often, you really need to see it in person and in good light. You may be surprised at the difference you will see between flourescent lights and outside in the natural sun light. It's quite a difference!

just more hot air!

Sherm



I know between 400 and 450 species of wood with their characteristics and properties...

In the second picture, you see that the bas of the JP is slightly damaged because some filaments of the wood got loose and broke off.

That made my mind up wether is was Wenge, Panga Panga or Black Palm.
These three species are very much alike when used in small pieces...

The additional two pictures proove even more that it is Black Palm, because of the figure on the top part of the JP.
The second picture of these last two show that we're talking here about laminated Black Palm.

It is Black Palm.

Tom Penrose
 
Penrose Cues said:
I know between 400 and 450 species of wood with their characteristics and properties...

In the second picture, you see that the bas of the JP is slightly damaged because some filaments of the wood got loose and broke off.

That made my mind up wether is was Wenge, Panga Panga or Black Palm.
These three species are very much alike when used in small pieces...

The additional two pictures proove even more that it is Black Palm, because of the figure on the top part of the JP.
The second picture of these last two show that we're talking here about laminated Black Palm.

It is Black Palm.

Tom Penrose

why was LAMINATED black palm used? what does a full piece of black palm look like?
 
bruin70 said:
why was LAMINATED black palm used? what does a full piece of black palm look like?


About the same...

A little more filaments and a somewhat rougher appearence in some cases...

Tom Penrose
 
Penrose Cues said:
I know between 400 and 450 species of wood with their characteristics and properties...
Tom,
Your knowledge, of various woods, is impressive. Could you post a list of recommended reading?

Tracy
 
RSB-Refugee said:
Tom,
Your knowledge, of various woods, is impressive. Could you post a list of recommended reading?

Tracy



Thank you very much for your compliment Tracy. It goes straight to my heart.

The internet is a great source of knowledge;

search for "wood", "wood species", "wood encyclopedia"....

And a lot of knowledge I have about wood is got by visiting woodshops, dealers, sawmills...

Finally, I keep in touch with instrument builders, cuemakers, cabinetmakers...etc

I'm 30 years old now and have been busy collecting knowledge about wood since I was about 16.

But I still learn every day. There are about 40.000 species and subspecies of wood on this planet. So...
Did you know for instance that there are 8 main species of ebony? Or 9 main species of oak..etc

Everybody is always welcome to PM me or mail me with any questions about wood. And my cues of course...

Tom Penrose
 
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That is one hell of a camera. Those are great pictures. What's the specs, brand, etc?
 
Vonn31 said:
That is one hell of a camera. Those are great pictures. What's the specs, brand, etc?

it's a cheap-assed ,,,old,,,canon g3 4megapixel.

you only need a couple of things for a shot like this,,,, macro feature, and proper light setup(most important). you set up the lights at the long end of a cylinder, otherwise the curve of the cylinder picks up the hilites. i shoot artwork with this camera and it does just fine.
 
bruin70 said:
it's a cheap-assed ,,,old,,,canon g3 4megapixel.

you only need a couple of things for a shot like this,,,, macro feature, and proper light setup(most important). you set up the lights at the long end of a cylinder, otherwise the curve of the cylinder picks up the hilites. i shoot artwork with this camera and it does just fine.
I have a new Canon A80. I think it has macro. It's a 4 mega pixel.
 
Vonn31 said:
I have a new Canon A80. I think it has macro. It's a 4 mega pixel.
I've got a Fuji FinePix E510 (5.2 mega pixel) and it has Macro and Super Macro.
The super macro is amazing :eek: :D
The attachment is a cropped pic of an XD card. On the actual card the "Fujifilm" lettering is around .750" wide.
 

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