What kind of wood sealer do you use?

jkmarshall_cues

jkmarshall_cues

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For the interest of clarity, I've been reading all the posts about the different kinds of finish everyone is using and I see most of you talk about a sealer being applied prior to your finish. What are you using as a sealer? Also, what kind of drying time are you allowing? And your sanding procedures? I would appreciate your in depth descriptions and processes if you are willing to take the time to share.

Thanks,
John
 
jkmarshall_cues said:
For the interest of clarity, I've been reading all the posts about the different kinds of finish everyone is using and I see most of you talk about a sealer being applied prior to your finish. What are you using as a sealer? Also, what kind of drying time are you allowing? And your sanding procedures? I would appreciate your in depth descriptions and processes if you are willing to take the time to share.

Thanks,
John
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West with 207 hardner.
 
Murray, thanks for the info. I found West systems epoxy on ebay and 207A hardener. Kind of spendy, but hey if it works then it's worth it. A quart of epoxy runs $32.95 and 10.6 fluid oz of hardener is $30.10 plus shipping. They sell gallons of epoxy for $86.95 and I'm sure there are better deals somewhere. If you have info for better pricing and supply source I would appreciate it if you would PM me regarding where. Thanks,
John
 
Super Glue, is a great sealer for wood. When using a accellerator you can sand immediately for a smooth finish.

Thick gel will fill any grain or any other imperfections before appling finish.

I know that many people will say that super is very toxic, however with proper ventilation at your lathe this is not a problem.
 
jkmarshall_cues said:
Murray, thanks for the info. I found West systems epoxy on ebay and 207A hardener. Kind of spendy, but hey if it works then it's worth it. A quart of epoxy runs $32.95 and 10.6 fluid oz of hardener is $30.10 plus shipping. They sell gallons of epoxy for $86.95 and I'm sure there are better deals somewhere. If you have info for better pricing and supply source I would appreciate it if you would PM me regarding where. Thanks,
John
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I get mine from Lewis Marine. Not much of a savings but I know it's fresh.
It is under Gougeon Bros. for the manufacturer.
 
manwon said:
Super Glue, is a great sealer for wood. When using a accellerator you can sand immediately for a smooth finish.

Thick gel will fill any grain or any other imperfections before appling finish.

I know that many people will say that super is very toxic, however with proper ventilation at your lathe this is not a problem.
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This what I like to do with super glue finish and sealer, Bang the cue and just watch the air pockets getting bigger and bigger.
 
Michael Webb said:
This what I like to do with super glue finish and sealer, Bang the cue and just watch the air pockets getting bigger and bigger.
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Please explain how to do that? Wow, thats a trick that I have not seen yet.

When do you let the air out?:confused:

Thanks for you insight in advance
 
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This thing of sealing & finishing with CA is eventually going to come back and bite some people right on the butt!
 
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manwon said:
Please explain how to do that? Wow, thats a trick that I have not seen yet.

When do you let the air out?:confused:

Thanks for you insight in advance
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I actually try some of the things suggested on this forum and some of them I wish worked but the super glue boogie is one thing that has always come back to bite my backside. I know a lot of people do it but it sets so quick when using the accelerator it doesn't bond to the wood, Sure it may fill the holes but will it let the actual finish bond to it, this is where my skepticism comes in, I once faced the joint of someone elses cue and the finish peeled right off, when I called the maker he said it was super glue sealed and that he used it because it was quick, So when I asked if he sanded, he said Yes, but he needed it done quick to ship the cue, The difference between super glue and 207 west system is one day, that's not to bad is it. Some woods have more grain than others so do it twice with the 207. Here's a question for all of you and you don't have to answer just think about it,
When you finish a cue, and it's either already sold or for sale, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN TO REWORK IT FOR FREE.
 
Michael Webb said:
I actually try some of the things suggested on this forum and some of them I wish worked but the super glue boogie is one thing that has always come back to bite my backside. I know a lot of people do it but it sets so quick when using the accelerator it doesn't bond to the wood, Sure it may fill the holes but will it let the actual finish bond to it, this is where my skepticism comes in, I once faced the joint of someone elses cue and the finish peeled right off, when I called the maker he said it was super glue sealed and that he used it because it was quick, So when I asked if he sanded, he said Yes, but he needed it done quick to ship the cue, The difference between super glue and 207 west system is one day, that's not to bad is it. Some woods have more grain than others so do it twice with the 207. Here's a question for all of you and you don't have to answer just think about it,
When you finish a cue, and it's either already sold or for sale, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN TO REWORK IT FOR FREE.
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Thanks for the information, most people do not take the time to explain what they are thinking.

I am truly grateful for the information.

Have a Great day!!!!!!
 
Just about any kind of finish or sealer will come back and bite you if applied incorrectly.
 
Michael Webb said:
I actually try some of the things suggested on this forum and some of them I wish worked but the super glue boogie is one thing that has always come back to bite my backside. I know a lot of people do it but it sets so quick when using the accelerator it doesn't bond to the wood, Sure it may fill the holes but will it let the actual finish bond to it, this is where my skepticism comes in, I once faced the joint of someone elses cue and the finish peeled right off, when I called the maker he said it was super glue sealed and that he used it because it was quick, So when I asked if he sanded, he said Yes, but he needed it done quick to ship the cue, The difference between super glue and 207 west system is one day, that's not to bad is it. Some woods have more grain than others so do it twice with the 207. Here's a question for all of you and you don't have to answer just think about it,
When you finish a cue, and it's either already sold or for sale, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN TO REWORK IT FOR FREE.
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"because it was quick" seems to be the most popular reason for using it. I sure haven't heard other good reasons.
 
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