What? Screw Ebay!!!!!

rack'em zach'em said:
They took my Phillippi and Libra of ebay because it had ivory in it!!!!


i would imagine that since they are made by highly reputible cuemakers, the ivory was probably pre-ban or aquired legally..

ebay requires you to state in the listing text that it is preban and legal ivory in the auctions now.. they are trying to clear their bad rep for turning a blinde eye to the sale of ivory online..

chris
 
Ebay is horrible when it comes to things like this.

They removed a auction of mine for no reason at all a few years back. It apparently was reported as a violation and yanked without ever speaking to me. Of course they wanted me to pay the fees for the auction even though it only ran 2 days.

What I think happened is someone selling a similiar product started "reporting" everyone else selling the same thing to boost his own sales.

Since they refused to refund my fees I was so ticked off I called the BBB. They finally refunded me.

I hate that company.
 
Ivory inlaid cues on ebay

ChrisOnline said:
i would imagine that since they are made by highly reputible cuemakers, the ivory was probably pre-ban or aquired legally..

ebay requires you to state in the listing text that it is preban and legal ivory in the auctions now.. they are trying to clear their bad rep for turning a blinde eye to the sale of ivory online..

chris
I've sold a lot of cues on ebay with ivory inlays and i've never heard of this before. Do you know how long this ivory ban unless you state "pre-ban" has been going on with ebay auctions? It must be something new or recent since it hasn't been very long since my last cue auction with an ivory inlaid cue.
 
Go to live chat

I think it is in "My Ebay". Type in questions and they reply as you enter your problems. It can be very helpful.
Nick :)
 
SCCues said:
I've sold a lot of cues on ebay with ivory inlays and i've never heard of this before. Do you know how long this ivory ban unless you state "pre-ban" has been going on with ebay auctions? It must be something new or recent since it hasn't been very long since my last cue auction with an ivory inlaid cue.

In the last two months or so, maybe 3 on the outside.

Kelly
 
Ebay dosn't look for bad listings only those reported

rack'em zach'em said:
They took my Phillippi and Libra of ebay because it had ivory in it!!!!

Ebay doesn't search for these things, It's more than likely a competitor reported it and brought it to their attention.
 
shotmaker said:
Ebay doesn't search for these things, It's more than likely a competitor reported it and brought it to their attention.

Not in this case. There was some heavy international criticism pointed at ebay recently regarding sale of ivory. They have started enforcing the preban statement requirements and removing listings that do not include it.

Kelly
 
SCCues said:
I've sold a lot of cues on ebay with ivory inlays and i've never heard of this before. Do you know how long this ivory ban unless you state "pre-ban" has been going on with ebay auctions? It must be something new or recent since it hasn't been very long since my last cue auction with an ivory inlaid cue.


here is the original thread here on az that i remember reading it..

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=64596

chris
 
shotmaker said:
Ebay doesn't search for these things, It's more than likely a competitor reported it and brought it to their attention.
Yes they do.
 
I think what is most likely is that some do gooder fifth grader on a crusade to save the elephants reported your auction to eBay.
Sometimes a complete class will undergo a save the world project and scan the internet and report anything they find against their ideals.
It is libiral thinking teachers pointing the way to a better world by directing their class activitys toward their pet projects.

"Do you know what YOUR child is being taught in school?"
 
6/5/07
EBay Bans Cross-Border Ivory Sales
By ARTHUR MAX


THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) - The online auction house eBay Inc. said Tuesday it will ban cross-border trade of ivory products, following a study by a wildlife group that found nine out of 10 of the items sold on the Internet is probably illegal.

The company also will alert traders on its Web site that they may need to prove they are legally allowed to sell their ivory products, spokeswoman Nicola Sharpe said, speaking from San Jose, Calif.

The first report of the ban came at a conference in The Hague where regulation of the ivory trade is high on the agenda of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, or CITES. EBAY INC

The International Fund for Animal Welfare, the British-based wildlife group that negotiated the ban with eBay, said the announcement should send a signal to the 171-nation CITES to tighten the trade regime to further protect elephants from poaching.

The ban would apply only to international trade, and not to sales within a country's borders, Sharpe said. Laws on domestic ivory sales differ from country to country.

``The Internet is a huge challenge,'' said Claudia McMurray, the U.S. assistant secretary of state for environment issues, acknowledging that the United States has a big market for illegal ivory.

While applauding the decision, McMurray said: ``You still have to identify the buyer and the seller, and ascertain whether it's elephant ivory and legal.'' The United States was prepared to prosecute illegal traders, but ``in cyberspace you don't know who you are dealing with,'' she told The Associated Press. The U.S. government has worked closely with eBay in the past, and it has been ``very good at understanding how they can ferret out illegal behavior.''

In a statement, eBay said the ban was intended to give ``confidence to those people who want to buy legitimate and legal ivory items.''

Peter Prueschel, of the animal welfare group, said it was difficult to distinguish between domestic and international trades on eBay. ``That's why we tell them that sooner or later they will have to ban ivory entirely,'' he said.

Prueschel said eBay in Germany, which displayed an average 400 ivory items a day on its site, banned all ivory sales in March 2006. Since then, traffic has plunged 98 percent.

Only ivory that predates the 1975 CITES treaty or ivory from national stocks which later received one-time exemptions can legally be traded across national borders.

Some items mistaken or mislabeled as ivory actually come from walrus or mammoth tusks - increasingly available as the Russian and Alaskan tundra melt due to global warming.

In its study, the animal welfare group said it found 2,275 ivory pieces offered for sale on the Internet in seven countries during a randomly chosen week in February, and that 94 percent lacked any mention of certification and probably were illegal.

The report coincided with another study by Care for the Wild International that identified the United States as one of the world's leading markets for illegal ivory.

That report's author, Esmond Martin, said he found more than 23,000 items of ivory in a survey of 15 U.S. cities. In some cities, half the items were illegally imported, and bore the hallmarks of production in China.

He said increasingly the ivory trade was migrating from retail stores to the Internet, which is not regulated by federal or state law.
 
Hey Willeecue,

I'm a teacher and consider myself a damn good one. I am passionate and take pride in helping young children see and explore the world around them. Please don't make general statements defacing all people of one group.

Thank you,
John
 
THats weird, I am an ebay Junky and see the word ivory in almost all the high end cue auctions??? even in the acutal titles??
 
GTeye said:
Ebay is horrible when it comes to things like this.

They removed a auction of mine for no reason at all a few years back. It apparently was reported as a violation and yanked without ever speaking to me. Of course they wanted me to pay the fees for the auction even though it only ran 2 days.

What I think happened is someone selling a similiar product started "reporting" everyone else selling the same thing to boost his own sales.

Since they refused to refund my fees I was so ticked off I called the BBB. They finally refunded me.

I hate that company.

BBB has no authority over anything. they just keep a record of the problem. i had a compant in nc that had 143 neg violations and all they could do is record the complaint
 
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