What this espiritu worth?

Could you please show a pictures of the ferrule, and where the ferrule meets the shaft?

Russ is a great guy. He has been making cues for around 25 years, and his cue has a nice hit. His inlays are tight and nicely done. His point and veneers are also quite nice. I had the pleasure of trying out his cues and talking to him a few times, we went to have dinner together with a few friends in Japan. I really enjoy his company. He is very knowledgable, and is very generous in sharing his knowledge with others.

I remember he sold out his cues in the 2005 US Open. The value the buyer gets for his cue is simply unbelivable.

Good luck to the sales.:)

Richard
 
cueaddicts said:
Duc, IMO whoever told you $1800 might have been on the high side. Try these comparable ones on Greg's site:

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cueobsessions/espiritu/espiritu_custom_cues.htm

The third one down had quite a bit more fancy at $1530 msrp and with fancy ivory inlays and full Bushka rings. With Russ, you get a LOT of cue for the money.

Sean
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i would never go by the msrp. i laugh when i see a schon listed with "msrp $1400...your price $1100" the reason why is because i see that $1100 price everywhere, its never $1400 anywhere. i dont even see retailers charge $1400, more around $1150 or $1200. im sure a few retailers would charge the msrp $1400, but im sure they're not selling a lot of cues.

i just starting collecting cues and this is what ive learned in 3 months...
a few cues that i've noticed are not doing well in the market are:
dale perry (definately #1 on that list), a few others are coker, espiritu, jacoby, josey, mcdaniels, new schons, new joss, mcdermotts, meuccis, basically any production cue. once you buy these cues and use them, it seems like you wont get more than 70% of your money back, even though its still in excellent condition.
im learning the cues to get are the famous cuemakers like scruggs, mottey, white, tascarella, szamboti, and #1 on top for best resale value...southwest.

im also learning that is a really expensive hobby.
 
tigermaster said:
i would never go by the msrp. i laugh when i see a schon listed with "msrp $1400...your price $1100" the reason why is because i see that $1100 price everywhere, its never $1400 anywhere. i dont even see retailers charge $1400, more around $1150 or $1200. im sure a few retailers would charge the msrp $1400, but im sure they're not selling a lot of cues.....
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Maybe not but msrp is a place to start. Schons are production cues and anybody and everybody knows someone that's a dealer that can get you the cue for wholesale + $50-$100, which is usually 50% off retail. That's not necessarily a good gauge when you are talking custom cues, as most cuemakers who have actual dealers have agreements where they aren't allowed to "wholesale" their cues. Those that do, you will notice don't hold values too well. Plus, there's just a lot of wood out there....seems like a couple of new 'cuemakers' setting up shop every week.
 
SEAN,

As you know I respect your opinion on pricing.

How much would you pay for subject cue?

PM if you prefer

Thanks, Adam
 
VonRhett said:
Yeah, well, he might as well put it on his web site, cause no one on here will touch it now.

Funny - I almost asked him who did the wrap just because of the third pic. See how the wrap isn't flush with the butt? That's classic Painter.

Where the wrap meets the forearm looks pretty good, but I'll bet you can feel the transition from wrap to butt plate. That little gap and ridge will feel huge when you're stroking and it would be annoying as hell.

How appropro....

-von
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I know all too well about how 'annoying' it can be. :mad: One look at the warp job and I was 99% sure it was a P.P. "refurb".:)

Too those not aware what a leather wrap job done correctly should look like, lets compare.

Smooth, flawless work:
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Crooked, jagged cuts:
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Perfect transition from leather to wood:
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Aaron's usual work:
hack2.JPG

I wont ask to see a picture of the seam line, I already know what it looks like. :D

Its a shame too because this was one beautiful cue. Classic and traditional, what a cue should look like. Sadly however I don't think many people will touch it now, knowing where its been.:(
 
Unfortunately, even if Russ had refinished it and put the wrap on, I don't think it would bring the $$$ it should. I am in the process of obtaining a nice 8 pointer, and will probably pick it up for 1/3 of what it sold for new. They are very nice cues and hit great, just no aftermarket. He is also cranking out some really nice stuff.
 
whatever happened to aaron painter? i havent seen him since your refinish situation with the espiritu cue.
 
troro said:
I retailed the cue at $1050 with 1 shaft before the wrap job. Thanks.
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Soooo, Duc, you may want to reconsider listing it at $1300! on your web site :D

So it was $1050.00 new, normal resell would be $700.00, but since it's been
PAINTED, I'd say it's wooorrrrrtthhh, oh, ummm, say, a hundred bucks? :D :D

J/K!! (sorta) :p :p
 
Was the cue just rewraped or was it also refinished? Wondering if the signature is authentic.:rolleyes: :eek: :D
 
cueaddicts said:
Duc, IMO whoever told you $1800 might have been on the high side. Try these comparable ones on Greg's site:

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cueobsessions/espiritu/espiritu_custom_cues.htm

The third one down had quite a bit more fancy at $1530 msrp and with fancy ivory inlays and full Bushka rings. With Russ, you get a LOT of cue for the money.

Sean
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sean the third one down is easier to make than this cue. it may look nicer but this cue has more iinlay work as far as number of inlays and also has inlays inside of inlays. i think a retail of $1,800 is close enough for government work so to speak. now the one below that, now there is allot of work for the money.
 
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