What Would You Do?

You owe a ball in OnePocket. Both parties forgot about it. You just a won a match for a few bucks. After the last game it occurred to you. Will you sleep tonight.
You are playing basketball and step on the foul line. Nobody says anything. Are you turning over the ball.
 
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This is not an individual tournament where a player's decision to say anything or not say anything in that situation only effects that player and their opponent. It certainly becomes way more complicated and controversial a decision when you have teammates, and your teammate's potential $$ winnings at stake, particularly a match of this magnitude.

Should not your first priority be your loyalty to your teammates? Luckily, it sounds like this player did not have to deal with the repercussions of his decision, if his team had lost, at least partially as a result of his decision.
 
If he was on my team, I wouldn’t like it at all.
I play fair, but ask for and give no quarter.

He was giving comfort to the enemy......
..where does it stop?....do you chalk his cue for him?

Golfer mentality, obligation to protect the field. Unless it’s just two guys, with no effect on anybody else, a specific set of rules to be followed and enforced, by all.
 
Great for him for being classy but it was not his job to do so

Nor is the refs job to stop you from making a mistake

Imo

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My question is...why weren't any of the shooter's teammates paying attention? In the APA it is not a foul nor unsportsmanlike conduct to notify a teammate that they are about to shoot the wrong ball or category of balls.

Every one of this guys teammates should have had their eyes focused on what was going on at the table.

That said, this is my take. I THINK in that situation I would have looked the other way (literally) and went ahead and called the foul after he shot the wrong ball. APA rules allow you to keep letting him shoot your all of your balls (getting down to the 8-ball) before calling the foul. So, calling the foul after the first ball is still some semblance of good sportsmanship.
I just wouldn't have been able to chance taking that kind of money out of my teammates pockets. There's no telling what their financial situations are.

Maniac
 
A neighbor once advised me regarding picking at rummage sales... "you do not have an obligation to educate the seller" Referring to an item that has much more value than what it is priced at. I once bought an item priced at 50 cents, and shipped it the next day to someone who bought it for $90 on eBay.

Might be a stretch to apply to the pool situation, but players ought to know the rules, especially in a team event.
 
Its easy to sit behind a keyboard and say we would do this or that in a particular situation . I dint think there is a right or wrong answer to this. No rules say you have to notify your opponent and I am not aware of a rule that says you cannot ....particularly in amateur leagues.

Pool players run the gamut from liars cheats and thieves to honest....high moral fiber and high integrity. I believe that has majority fall some where in the middle.

Some players such as pt apparently would never notify an opponent in any situation. Some as Jeff has alluded to would notify on some situations but not when money is on the line.

To use an analogy of how money affects your character here. Say you are walking behind some one who drops a 10 dollar bill. The vast majority will pick it up and notify the dropee... If the same person had dropped a 100 bill far fewer of those same people would notify him. The higher the dollar amount the lower the threshold of your integrity. A few will not sell their integrity for any amount and sadly many people would call them fools.

I am the type that has always notified my opponent before a foul and I am going to be honest here. I have no idea what I would have done in this situation. My integrity tells me to notify him like I have always done but the lil devil perched on my shoulder is telling me that's a lot of money on the line and it could not only cost you but your team mates that are relying on you.

I would like to think that my integrity could not be bought in this situation. I have mad respect for this guy.

It can be a tough call, for sure.

I wouldn't not tell him, "just for the money." It has as much or more to do with being on team with mates that depend on my efforts for US to win or do well. Each of those players has dedicated time, money, effort, etc. to this event and each deserves some respect, too.

Also, when playing in a high level event (State and National tourneys for us league players, for example), the player has the responsibility to know the rules, pay attention to his game, etc. In weekly league, sometimes a novice player doesn't even know the rules or what to do if a violation occurs, so some "coaching" if you will, is helpful to everyone.

I always tell someone if they dropped ANY amount of cash. Hell, I handed 20 bucks I found to a store clerk in case the guy who dropped came back in looking for it. How stupid is that?



Jeff Livingston
 
I always tell someone if they dropped ANY amount of cash. Hell, I handed 20 bucks I found to a store clerk in case the guy who dropped came back in looking for it. How stupid is that?



Jeff Livingston

Always return something to its owner. Find a camera, cash, wallet, dog, cue whatever.... find the owner. It’s the right thing to do.
 
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