whats the best way to change a tip?

scottycoyote

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how do you get an old tip off the cue? I dont wanna mess up the ferrule, then i just sand it smooth and sand the tip and put it on? Whats you guys opinion on those pads they make that goes between the tip and the ferrule? where do i get them?
 
most people get mad at my simple way of doing things,,,LOL

lay shaft on flat surface, cut tip off with sharp knife (or single edge razor blade,,, OUCH!),,,I have been experimenting with different ferrule types, even made some striped ones for fun (out of pvc),,,the pvc ferrules with fiber pads worked; almost all without the pad,split within a month in the pool hall,,,my conclusion is the pad works,,, JMHO
 
in all honesty spend the $10 buck or more to have a professional do it
it will look nicer than you could ever dream of doing buy hand
and save you the risk of ruining the ferrule
 
well thats the problem.....i aint got a local professional. My poolhall.....u leave a shaft to get a tip it might be ready 3 weeks later....might not. It aint about the money.......if i had a pro close by id gladly pay 20 or 30 to get it done, its about getting it done and getting my cue back so i can play.
 
jack........so the pad is just to protect the ferrule? Seems like i read somewhere people felt like it changed the hit? whats ur take
 
thats nice but.......holy cow 500 bucks. I dont wanna go into the biddness......just wanna do my own stuff. Im hoping one of the nice cuemakers are gonna give me a web addy or some kind of tutorial on this (hinthinthint)
 
scottycoyote said:
thats nice but.......holy cow 500 bucks. I dont wanna go into the biddness......just wanna do my own stuff. Im hoping one of the nice cuemakers are gonna give me a web addy or some kind of tutorial on this (hinthinthint)
Look for old Inside Pool article by Jim Buss. He wrote how to do it sans lathe or special tools. If you decide to go that route, be sure your hand is very steady. ;)

Tracy
 
thanks cubswin......thats just what i was lookin for

guess i shoulda not been lazy and used the search feature....... :)
 
scottycoyote said:
thanks cubswin......thats just what i was lookin for

guess i shoulda not been lazy and used the search feature....... :)


someone gave me that link when I asked the same question last year, just pass it along the next time it comes up :)
 
Scott,

Instead of getting a williards you should get a travel tipper by unique products. I got a williards first and I should have just got a travel tipper. Now I have a lathe. But if you want a used williards I will sell you mine!!
 
Scott,
Where are you located?
Most people could easily remove a tip and add a new one, then cut and shape it to their desire. However, it's really important that you get a flat, even surface on both the ferrule and the tip in order for the adhesive to bond at it's fullest potential. Notice I didn't say smooth surface, the tip needs to be sanded so it's a little rough.
I would still recommend a professional for installing tips! A lathe can do such a better all around job. It will be bonded better, look better, stay on longer(should), and it doesn't cost that much. I know you mentioned time was a factor and money wasn't. I would gather up all the cues you have and some money. Decide what you would like done to each cue; new tip, refinished shaft, remove ding, new wrap, buff the finish, add/remove weight bolt, new bumper, etc. (you get the idea) Then find a professional repairman or cuemaker (that's willing to do the work and has time) that is less than 10 hours away, make arrangements with him to get the work done and make a weekend trip out of it! You can hit the local pool room, meet some new players and make a new friend in the industry that can help you out with your cue repair.
Just a suggestion! Again, where are you located?
Thanks and good luck,
Zim
 
thats a good idea zim.......although i really dont have many cues that need work, im in the process of trying some different tips and i wanted to be able to put them on and take them back off if i didnt like them. But im in virginia....i had one person pm me with an offer to do the work and we would just ship it back and forth, which i might end up doing if this tip replacing thing doesnt go well lol

thanks everybody for your input
 
Sounds like your area really needs a cue repairman. Maybe you should consider putting out about $975 and get a really good tip and ferrule lathe. Your problem would be solved and you would be a blessing to all those who are in the same predicament as you are in your area. Not to mention you would start making $10 for five minutes of work putting on tips. See www.cuesmith.com Micro Cue Smith 2 on lathes page.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
 
Scott,
Check with Don Purdy! He's in Virginia, but not sure exactly where compared to your location. I've had some shafts cleaned and retiped by him in the past and he does fantastic work! I have also done tip/shaft work via the mail system and am available if interested.
If you have a pool room in your area or a lot of players, I would take Chris's suggestiona and buy a new/used Cue Smith II or Mid-Size Cue Smith or other smaller repair lathes. I set up at a tournament with my Mid-Size Cue Smith lathe for 2 days and charged $15 for standard tip and $10 for shaft refinishing and I did over $1000 in just that weekend. Lathe has already paid for itself, plus I always have a clean cue and a good shaped tip.

Zim
 
cueman said:
Sounds like your area really needs a cue repairman. Maybe you should consider putting out about $975 and get a really good tip and ferrule lathe. Your problem would be solved and you would be a blessing to all those who are in the same predicament as you are in your area. Not to mention you would start making $10 for five minutes of work putting on tips. See www.cuesmith.com Micro Cue Smith 2 on lathes page.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com

I would sure like to get one of those jobs. By the time I deal with the customer, center the shaft in the lathe, face the ferrule, prepare the tip by removing the varnish from the back of the tip, apply glue to the ferrule, clamp the tip and allow it to cure for a few minutes, dress the edges of the tip, shape the tip, remove it from the lathe and deal with the customer again, I havn't seen 5 minutes for about 20 minutes. Now if you want to count the ordering time of the tips, unpackaging and placine them in stock and subtracting the cost of the tip and overhead you ain't made nothing at $10.00. If you are trying to pay a helper a decent wage you just went in the hole after taxes, workman's comp, unemployment tax, matching social security taxes, insurance etc.
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I would sure like to get one of those jobs. By the time I deal with the customer, center the shaft in the lathe, face the ferrule, prepare the tip by removing the varnish from the back of the tip, apply glue to the ferrule, clamp the tip and allow it to cure for a few minutes, dress the edges of the tip, shape the tip, remove it from the lathe and deal with the customer again, I havn't seen 5 minutes for about 20 minutes. Now if you want to count the ordering time of the tips, unpackaging and placine them in stock and subtracting the cost of the tip and overhead you ain't made nothing at $10.00. If you are trying to pay a helper a decent wage you just went in the hole after taxes, workman's comp, unemployment tax, matching social security taxes, insurance etc.
Who said anything about hiring a helper, workman's comp, unemployment tax, etc??? The guy only suggested that he could retip local players cues, not open a factory!! I think you may have been a little quick to throw in your .01! The guy never said he wants to make a million putting tips on, just to do his own! It was suggested that he purchase a small lathe to help the locals out and that would soon pay for his investment in the lathe!

Zim
 
cueman said:
Sounds like your area really needs a cue repairman. Maybe you should consider putting out about $975 and get a really good tip and ferrule lathe. Your problem would be solved and you would be a blessing to all those who are in the same predicament as you are in your area. Not to mention you would start making $10 for five minutes of work putting on tips. See www.cuesmith.com Micro Cue Smith 2 on lathes page.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com


Am I missing it or does your Mid-Sized Cuesmith not do any threading of parts like for ferrules, joint collars, etc. Thanks.
 
Cletus said:
Am I missing it or does your Mid-Sized Cuesmith not do any threading of parts like for ferrules, joint collars, etc. Thanks.
If you use taps and dies, you can thread on any lathe.
If you want live-tooling threading, you need a lathe that has a thread gear.
 
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