What's the deal with Sneaky Pete cues not being... sneaky?

[Black-Balled]

The main reason most custom cuemakers do not make ringless Sneaky Petes is that the failure rate of shafts cracking when no joint ring is installed is staggering. And no one wants to build cues that crack.

That is same thing my cuemaker told me.

Biggest difference between off the wall and other is taper of shaft, in my experience.

 

[Agent 99]

Sorry Agent, Sneaky Petes don't have veneers (according to the traditionalists)

I guess I did not know the ground rules ... But that Tiger certainly has the 'Wallabushka' look going on .. and it plays great with a Tiger Ultra shaft. If you have a shaft you want to use you can send it to Tiger and they will match the butt to it ...

Just another option.

 

[mchnhed]

Sneakiest Pete on Ebay.

Sneakiest Pete for sale on Fleabay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-Sneakie...562490?hash=item3f83a4e8fa:g:-4AAAOSwF3JZhTt2

 

[pt109]

Steve Oaks outta Terre Haute had a pretty sneaky pete....
...it looked like an aluminum butt and a wood shaft.

When he finally started to play tournaments, Varner hit with the cue...
...couldn't believe how good it played.

Steve finally peeled off the stuff he had sprayed with aluminum paint...
...it was a top of the line Joss....:smile:

 

[mchnhed]

Steve Oaks outta Terre Haute had a pretty sneaky pete....
...it looked like an aluminum butt and a wood shaft.

When he finally started to play tournaments, Varner hit with the cue...
...couldn't believe how good it played.

Steve finally peeled off the stuff he had sprayed with aluminum paint...
...it was a top of the line Joss....:smile:

Try a graphics wrap printed with Budweiser Logos on a Schon!

 

[Moet.1977]

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Dave K the cue that you can't remember the name of? Well looks just like my old Ca$h cue made from a John Davis blank. I sold it about a year and half ago, it was originally build for Rusty Melton. If it's the same cue and it looks like it from that picture.

 

[MissippiBrock]

I've got an all black predator P3 with a revo and most people think it's one of those graphite cues from Walmart, lol. It's not a sneaky *pete, but it's definitely sneaky. I think I'm going to change my alligator wrap to something less conspicuous looking though. Anyone tried or like shark skin? I'm into textured wraps

 

[SMG]

I had little Al Romero make me a "super sneaky"... when I told him what I wanted he gave me the weirdest look.... "Y THO"

 

[DaveK]

Dave K the cue that you can't remember the name of? Well looks just like my old Ca$h cue made from a John Davis blank. I sold it about a year and half ago, it was originally build for Rusty Melton. If it's the same cue and it looks like it from that picture.

I bought it from cfrandy here on AZ in 2014 (yes, I keep a few PMs ). It is a nice cue with 2 aftermarket breaking shafts (Ultra-X and IceBreaker). The only hand rubbed oil finished cue in my collection. It is also pretty darned sneaky if you don't see the shaft logos :lol:

Dave

 

[Ghosst]

So, I was looking over a whole galaxy of Sneaky Pete cues and it became painfully obvious to me that there are very few passable Sneaky Petes out there.

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Like, they're supposed to look like house cues?

The danger in this Pete is that if I leave it unattended for a minute some drunk will think he found a half-decent house cue and bang it off the rails to make sure it's "straight".

 

[poolguy4u]

I have an old Meucci Sneaky Pete that I purchased in probably 1996...apart from the ferrule being slightly longer than a typical house cue it looks just like a Valley house cue and I have had several instances where people pick it up accidentally when I have used it at bars and pool halls. It is wood on wood at the joint...no butt plate, just simple rubber bumper. In fact, the bumper and ferrule are really the only way you know it is a Meucci and you would only know that if you had ever seen or used one. I took out the weight in it because it was probably 21oz and was very back heavy (a war hammer!). I love that cue and still have it. I recently had it refinished because it was so beat up that the clear coating had come off in places. It looks great now...not brand new looking but certainly a lot better. The joint is also a lot less noticeable as it had gotten kind of "dirty" looking around the joint. The issue with these cues is that the ferrules used to crack and I do not break with it because of that. The ferrule has held up just fine and I have owned it for a LONG time now.

Looks like a Valley house cue....because it is a Valley.

So easy to duplicate an old Meucci.


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[Patrick53212]

Not a Valley

Looks like a Valley house cue....because it is a Valley.

So easy to duplicate an old Meucci.


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I purchased my Meucci Sneaky Pete back in the early to mid-90's. I bought it brand new at Ride The Rail off Telegraph Road in Oakville, MO. This is a suburb of St. Louis, MO. The pool hall is no longer open...at least it wasn't the last time I was in the area. I hung out there a lot up until I moved from the area in 1999. Here are some pictures I took recently...this is after having it refinished with a Kamui Black tip installed and removing the internal weight. It maybe weighs 18 oz...not sure.

 

[BigBoof]

This an example of the Predator 'Sneaky Pete' line....
...are you kidding me?????

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THIS is a sneaky pete

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The vernacular keeps changing the language....we have to invent new terms to keep up.
.....they need product names like 'REAL cream' now...
..people play 'table stakes' poker and call it 'no limit'....

I guess you better read this post quickly....before the meaning changes...

Table stakes does not really refer to betting limits. I first heard the term in a limit game where a player could be all in for what they started with or pull out money during the hand. There is no need to protect players for a limit bet. No limit games are just always set as table stakes so you aren't screwed if Jeff Bezos shows up.

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[pt109]

Table stakes does not really refer to betting limits. I first heard the term in a limit game where a player could be all in for what they started with or pull out money during the hand. There is no need to protect players for a limit bet. No limit games are just always set as table stakes so you aren't screwed if Jeff Bezos shows up.

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I played a fair amount of five card stud years ago...I always preferred 'table stakes' as
opposed to limit.
...our rules were simple...whatever you had on the table...that's what you could bet.
You couldn't add money after the cards were dealt...only between hands.

Most of the well run games....there was a limit to how much you could issue...
....which made skill predominate.

A no-limit game?...never seen one other than movies...like 'Big Hand for a Little Lady.

 

[BigBoof]

I played a fair amount of five card stud years ago...I always preferred 'table stakes' as
opposed to limit.
...our rules were simple...whatever you had on the table...that's what you could bet.
You couldn't add money after the cards were dealt...only between hands.

Most of the well run games....there was a limit to how much you could issue...
....which made skill predominate.

A no-limit game?...never seen one other than movies...like 'Big Hand for a Little Lady.

My point is that all public poker games (casino poker rooms) are "table stakes". If you are playing 15-30 limit and only have 20 left on the river, you are all in for 20. No obligation nor ability to pull out $10 to complete the bet.

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[pt109]

My point is that all public poker games (casino poker rooms) are "table stakes". If you are playing 15-30 limit and only have 20 left on the river, you are all in for 20. No obligation nor ability to pull out $10 to complete the bet.

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Not going for it....at 'limit' games you could reach into your pocket or borrow money.
....or you could say "That's all I got and create side pots if more than two were in.

...'table stakes' means what the term implies.

We had a lot of table stakes games that were $100 buy in....
...but the most you could issue was $300 at any time.

 

[hang-the-9]

Question for OP and other elitists (LOL)

What then, do you call a Sneaky Pete that has an ivory collar, ivory Hoppe ring and four veneers on the points?

Fancy Sneaky Petes

I think any full splice, no wrap, no inlay cue is a "Fancy Sneaky Pete" or just called a "Sneaky Pete" if it does not have very noticeable fancy rings. I recently got a new cue that was full splice with a white joint and some rings with fancy wood, I just call it a "custom cue", I don't think if it as a Sneaky Pete" cue even though it's fairly plain.

 

[pt109]

Fancy Sneaky Petes

That's a 'pretty ugly' contradiction of terms....