what's the tougher table?10' pool or 9' Chinese 8 Ball?

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Which is tougher for 8 ball? Which is the better table to practice if you only had one?

I was playing 10' pool yesterday at the Rivoli

(must see if you're in Toronto, antique Brunswicks galore)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_y0s5rLk8Czk/TSDJqU70ZHI/AAAAAAAAAeA/LTioJTAM5-Q/Rivoli1.jpg

last week I was practicing drill shots using pool balls on a 12' snooker table (none of the shots were longer than that of a 9' table)

I found the snooker pockets with the larger pool balls a lot tougher over the 10 footer despite the shorter distance, on the 10 footer I would play position for short shots but on the snooker table there's no escaping those small pockets

anything other than centre ball shots on the snooker table were super tough, longer shots were brutally tough

the 10 footer magnifies your errors too though especially on long shots and moving that cue ball round the big table is beautiful to see

either way, love em both, next purchase will be one or the other
 
i think I would find the table with the snooker pockets tougher but the real question is how many people on here really have the experience from playing on both to give and educated answer? Lol
 
Shane is a great 8 ball player.

He plays pretty sporty on the 10' tables.

The same can not be said when he plays on the C8B tables.


Does that answer your question?
 
Distance is easy to overcome, accuracy is far harder to achieve.

I've played snooker from the age of 6 to a high level. The tight pockets are off putting to start with, but you learn to sharpen your accuracy and learn to play long shots with side spin with accuracy. If you are just a casual pool player learning the game you take for granted what a tight pocket really is at times. I've hit plenty of bad shots in pool that haven't even rattled the pockets they've just dropped in. That kind of forgiveness teaches you to focus not so much on fundamentals that aid accuracy, but on other aspects of the game such as strategy, position and moving the ball around.

I see a 10ft table just as a 9ft table. Lots of people on here say there are no long shots on a barbox, this is true. I believe there are no long shots on a 9ft table also because I'm used to playing on a 12ft table. But distance really isn't an issue. I cant imagine Earl playing on a 12ft pool table and missing length of the table shots purely because of the distance. He can cope with the distance. What he couldn't cope with is knowing where the sweet spot is on a snooker tables pockets at distance. He would learn it quickly I'm sure, but to start he would really struggle. Much like I struggled when coming over to pool. I didn't know how much I could really cheat a pocket and position suffered because of this.

So, C8B table or a 10 footer? Distance makes a difference once every say 10 shots for a good player that can get close to the OB on most shots. The pockets are small always. So a smaller table with tight pockets is harder than a slightly bigger table with big pockets.
 
Pidge said:
Distance is easy to overcome, accuracy is far harder to achieve.

I've played snooker from the age of 6 to a high level. The tight pockets are off putting to start with, but you learn to sharpen your accuracy and learn to play long shots with side spin with accuracy. If you are just a casual pool player learning the game you take for granted what a tight pocket really is at times. I've hit plenty of bad shots in pool that haven't even rattled the pockets they've just dropped in. That kind of forgiveness teaches you to focus not so much on fundamentals that aid accuracy, but on other aspects of the game such as strategy, position and moving the ball around.

I see a 10ft table just as a 9ft table. Lots of people on here say there are no long shots on a barbox, this is true. I believe there are no long shots on a 9ft table also because I'm used to playing on a 12ft table. But distance really isn't an issue. I cant imagine Earl playing on a 12ft pool table and missing length of the table shots purely because of the distance. He can cope with the distance. What he couldn't cope with is knowing where the sweet spot is on a snooker tables pockets at distance. He would learn it quickly I'm sure, but to start he would really struggle. Much like I struggled when coming over to pool. I didn't know how much I could really cheat a pocket and position suffered because of this.

So, C8B table or a 10 footer? Distance makes a difference once every say 10 shots for a good player that can get close to the OB on most shots. The pockets are small always. So a smaller table with tight pockets is harder than a slightly bigger table with big pockets.
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Agree.

Snooker pockets are tough, many of the Az crowd will not know just how tough because the likely will never have access to a pro snooker table. Lots of shots just can't be made the way you are used to making them, and need to be relearned if you started out playing pool. The adjustment will happen, but will be difficult for some.

If I had to choose between a 10 footer and a chineese 8 ball table I'd take the 10 footer. I love the fact that it is traditional in a sense, yet a little different. I also enjoy cheating the pocket etc, which is a huge part of pocket billiards, and is not feasible on snooker pockets.

After playing snooker for a week or so it's always nice to come back to the pool table and really let the stroke go, and juice the ball around. That's why I never can stick to snooker for long. I like the "spicy" shots and they are so hard in snooker. And I hate how I can not get the extreme reaction from sidespin off the cushion. The snooker cushion has to much bounce and not enough "grab", due to the profile.
 
Pidge said:
Distance is easy to overcome, accuracy is far harder to achieve.

I've played snooker from the age of 6 to a high level. The tight pockets are off putting to start with, but you learn to sharpen your accuracy and learn to play long shots with side spin with accuracy. If you are just a casual pool player learning the game you take for granted what a tight pocket really is at times. I've hit plenty of bad shots in pool that haven't even rattled the pockets they've just dropped in. That kind of forgiveness teaches you to focus not so much on fundamentals that aid accuracy, but on other aspects of the game such as strategy, position and moving the ball around.

I see a 10ft table just as a 9ft table. Lots of people on here say there are no long shots on a barbox, this is true. I believe there are no long shots on a 9ft table also because I'm used to playing on a 12ft table. But distance really isn't an issue. I cant imagine Earl playing on a 12ft pool table and missing length of the table shots purely because of the distance. He can cope with the distance. What he couldn't cope with is knowing where the sweet spot is on a snooker tables pockets at distance. He would learn it quickly I'm sure, but to start he would really struggle. Much like I struggled when coming over to pool. I didn't know how much I could really cheat a pocket and position suffered because of this.

So, C8B table or a 10 footer? Distance makes a difference once every say 10 shots for a good player that can get close to the OB on most shots. The pockets are small always. So a smaller table with tight pockets is harder than a slightly bigger table with big pockets.
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I agree. Nice post. Tight pockets on a smaller table are much harder to adjust to VS larger pockets on a larger table. You can play a decent safe on a Chinese 8 ball table by simply putting the object ball really close to the cushion, but not touching the cushion. Try power drawing one of those into the pocket to get shape. :)
 
smashmouth said:
Which is tougher for 8 ball? Which is the better table to practice if you only had one?

I was playing 10' pool yesterday at the Rivoli

(must see if you're in Toronto, antique Brunswicks galore)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_y0s5rLk8Czk/TSDJqU70ZHI/AAAAAAAAAeA/LTioJTAM5-Q/Rivoli1.jpg

last week I was practicing drill shots using pool balls on a 12' snooker table (none of the shots were longer than that of a 9' table)

I found the snooker pockets with the larger pool balls a lot tougher over the 10 footer despite the shorter distance, on the 10 footer I would play position for short shots but on the snooker table there's no escaping those small pockets

anything other than centre ball shots on the snooker table were super tough, longer shots were brutally tough

the 10 footer magnifies your errors too though especially on long shots and moving that cue ball round the big table is beautiful to see

either way, love em both, next purchase will be one or the other
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We play GOLF on a 10 ft Kling Snooker table, where the corner pockets are about 3 1/2 wide with round corners of course. Running a ball down the rail, into the hole, with more than drop-in speed, is only someone's imagination.

Having played Snooker for 20 years, I would venture to say the 9 foot Chinese 8-Ball Table, with the round pockets, is more challenging.
 
Chinese 8 ball is super tough
 

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I played on a 12 ft snooker table when I was in Texas. Toughest table I've ever played on. My hat goes off to anyone that competed on the 12 footers back in the day. I would think the Chinese 8 ball would be tougher to answer the original question.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
Agree.

Snooker pockets are tough, many of the Az crowd will not know just how tough because the likely will never have access to a pro snooker table. Lots of shots just can't be made the way you are used to making them, and need to be relearned if you started out playing pool. The adjustment will happen, but will be difficult for some.

If I had to choose between a 10 footer and a chineese 8 ball table I'd take the 10 footer. I love the fact that it is traditional in a sense, yet a little different. I also enjoy cheating the pocket etc, which is a huge part of pocket billiards, and is not feasible on snooker pockets.

After playing snooker for a week or so it's always nice to come back to the pool table and really let the stroke go, and juice the ball around. That's why I never can stick to snooker for long. I like the "spicy" shots and they are so hard in snooker. And I hate how I can not get the extreme reaction from sidespin off the cushion. The snooker cushion has to much bounce and not enough "grab", due to the profile.
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I've never played on a pro snooker table but I'm terrible on a normal Brunswick snooker table. I can't for the life of me hit any power shots without knocking the ball around the table. Shows how accurate I really am.
 
Chinese 8 ball is definitely harder.

After ~2 hours of table time tonight, I felt:
- Any ball which is close to the rail will need a slow roll to pot it, otherwise you need to plan carom/ billiard ahead.
- You can't really cheat the pocket.
- Banking and jumping are low percentage shots.
- Banking and kicking without diamond system can be challenging for some players.

Look at the bright side:
- It's a lot easier to play a decent safety shot.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Shane is a great 8 ball player.

He plays pretty sporty on the 10' tables.

The same can not be said when he plays on the C8B tables.


Does that answer your question?
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Correct.
C8B table has to be tougher
Even taking into account that in C8B it is easier to play safety (like no cushion rule), more difficult to bank. I mean if C8B table was easier than 10 foot table, Bigfoot champ Shane would be all over C8B with its big prizemoney - now 2 tourneys per year $50K and $100K so total $150K. Just win these 2 tourneys per year and Shane can fish rest of year:D
 
OnePercent said:
After ~2 hours of table time tonight, I felt:
- Any ball which is close to the rail will need a slow roll to pot it, otherwise you need to plan carom/ billiard ahead.
- You can't really cheat the pocket.
- Banking and jumping are low percentage shots.
- Banking and kicking without diamond system can be challenging for some players.

Look at the bright side:
- It's a lot easier to play a decent safety shot.
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where did you play?
 
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