When can I sell your cue?

Shorty

Shorty

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This was brought up in another thread under wanted/for sale...and I want to pose this question to you cuemakers in particular.

When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him?
What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you?
Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it?
Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die?
Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make?
Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others?

Just some questions to pose and discuss, no flames meant.

Shorty
 
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Shorty said:
This was brought up in another thread under wanted/for sale...and I want to pose this question to you cuemakers in particular.

When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him?
What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you?
Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it?
Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die?
Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make?
Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others?

Just some questions to pose and discuss, no flames meant.

Shorty
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I personally would like to have these questions answered also. nice thread Shorty!! my understanding would be: you got your money for it, and as long as we're not ignorant about it, why should YOU really care what we do with it?
 
The only time a Cue maker is really offended about a cue sale is if they gave a cue as an endorsement. Other than that why would he or she be offended, You bought it, he got paid for it, It's your right to do whatever you want with it. I make cues for dealers and players. If the cues performance and registration are what the cue maker designed, why should anyone be upset.
 
Michael Webb said:
The only time a Cue maker is really offended about a cue sale is if they gave a cue as an endorsement. Other than that why would he or she be offended, You bought it, he got paid for it, It's your right to do whatever you want with it. I make cues for dealers and players. If the cues performance and registration are what the cue maker designed, why should anyone be upset.
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I agree with you Mike, but I would add one thing. Once I am making cues (hopefully), if I make a custom cue to specs for someone, and then they turn around and sell it quickly because they were disappointed about an aspect of the cue (whether it is a perception or real issue or not), I think I would find that troubling and hope to communicate better next time as my goal will be for the owner (if he intends to make it his playing cue) to be completely satisfied and not wish to sell it. But, there are many reasons people end up selling a cue, and multiple owners of a cue means more people shooting with it, and that could be more exposure for a cue maker, which could be a good thing.

I hope a reply on this topic from someone working towards becoming a cue maker is ok with everyone.
Kelly
 
Kelly_Guy I hope a reply on this topic from someone working towards becoming a cue maker is ok with everyone. Kelly[/QUOTE said:
Absolutely, fire away. I was talking mainly as a positive for instance, if the sale was a negative one then the Cue maker would choose to make or not make the customer future cues.
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Shorty said:
This was brought up in another thread under wanted/for sale...and I want to pose this question to you cuemakers in particular.

When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him?
What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you?
Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it?
Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die?
Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make?
Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others?

Just some questions to pose and discuss, no flames meant.

Shorty
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When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him? Whenever he wants to.

What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you? It would have to be years if I made him the cue at a big discount for advertising purposes. I have been known to make local champions cues for pretty heavy discounts for advertising purposes. Then it does upset me when I hear they sold the cue for a profit.

Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it? Yes unless the above applies.

Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die? No.

Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make? Hopefully, but realistically, No.

Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others? Yes, unless he was one I built a cue for at a discount for advertising purposes. Or if I felt I could never make him happy.

Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
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Shorty said:
This was brought up in another thread under wanted/for sale...and I want to pose this question to you cuemakers in particular.

When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him?
What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you?
Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it?
Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die?
Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make?
Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others?

Just some questions to pose and discuss, no flames meant.

Shorty
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For a long time I thought that every Q I made would stay with it's original owner. Then I made a beautiful 6 point coco & birdseye Q for a friend. I gave him a $100 discount, he paid me & took it to league that night. HE SOLD IT THAT NIGHT FOR $200, MORE THAN HE PAID FOR IT. Then he turned around & ordered another Q. I made the Q & raised my prices by $200. Now I make the best Q I can & charge a fair price. Pool players are fickle & change cues for reasons that they don't even understand. I can't let that bother me...JER
 
Michael Webb said:
Absolutely, fire away. I was talking mainly as a positive for instance, if the sale was a negative one then the Cue maker would choose to make or not make the customer future cues.
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I have three customs and one on the way. Of the four, I commissioned two of them, got one second or third hand, on trade. One I received as a gift, just yesterday, it will never be for sale! There are some things more important than money and friendship is one of them. As for the one on the way, the maker told me he test hit it and if I ever want to sell it, he has first dibs. He would make it his playing cue, he say's it hits like a cannon, I can't wait. :) I doubt if it will ever be for sale either. The one I got second hand I would have no problem selling. I think if you get a price you can't refuse, it should be a compliment to the maker.

Tracy
 
cueman said:
When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him? Whenever he wants to.

What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you? It would have to be years if I made him the cue at a big discount for advertising purposes. I have been known to make local champions cues for pretty heavy discounts for advertising purposes. Then it does upset me when I hear they sold the cue for a profit.

Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it? Yes unless the above applies.

Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die? No.

Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make? Hopefully, but realistically, No.

Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others? Yes, unless he was one I built a cue for at a discount for advertising purposes. Or if I felt I could never make him happy.

Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
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Thanks Chris and Mike...I really appreciate your answering this thread.

Shorty
 
Shorty said:
This was brought up in another thread under wanted/for sale...and I want to pose this question to you cuemakers in particular.

When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him?
What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you?
Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it?
Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die?
Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make?
Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others?

Just some questions to pose and discuss, no flames meant.

Shorty
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I can't comment on a cue that I built, but I had one situation where a customer had a really cheap cue that needed a ton of work. I refused the work for a month but he was persistant. The cue had sentimental value. Well, I finally give in,spend 2 months off/on repairing inlays,rings and re-finishing the cue. He was real choked up when he saw the cue and it was close to Christmas, so I didn't charge him anything for my labor. You know the rest of the story. He has the cue for less than a week, then sells it for $200. Won't happen again...
 
Hi all,

I think its fine to sell the cue that we ordered, we all had times that we found a cue that doesnt suits u. But to consistently do so for 4-5 cuemakers smacks of speculation, or immature business practices. A cuemaker would be irate if the cue he painstakenly made, put serious effort to, had attend every little requests and options that the buyer wanted, going out all the way to please, only to see it hawkering on a public domain ... and with the buyer having prior history of selling...

Some cuemakers have a rep for making player cues, and would like players to use them... Some, make cues as an art form, but still find time to make a couple of players...but when they would probably feel let down when they were lead into believing that the cue was meant for a player.. but well.

Sometimes its business, sometimes its personal.. what do u think Bill will think if u sold the titlist the moment u got it?

Bgrds
Raist
 
cueman said:
When is a buyer allowed to sell a cue you made for him? Whenever he wants to.

What time frame is appropriate as to not offend you? It would have to be years if I made him the cue at a big discount for advertising purposes. I have been known to make local champions cues for pretty heavy discounts for advertising purposes. Then it does upset me when I hear they sold the cue for a profit.

Are you of the opinion that it's his cue and he can do whatever he wants with it? Yes unless the above applies.

Do you expect every cue you make to go to it's owner and stay with them until they die? No.

Do you expect a new cue owner to be totally happy with each and every cue you make? Hopefully, but realistically, No.

Would you continue to make cues for a guy if he sells the cues to others? Yes, unless he was one I built a cue for at a discount for advertising purposes. Or if I felt I could never make him happy.
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I couldn't have said it better myself. :D
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
I personally would like to have these questions answered also. nice thread Shorty!! my understanding would be: you got your money for it, and as long as we're not ignorant about it, why should YOU really care what we do with it?
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As long as you don't badmouth the maker, it's your business.
But, selling the cue two weeks after you said it's the best hitting stick you ever had.....:D
 
Not to ...

be disrespectful to any cuemaker, but if I bought a custom
cue (whether I had hit with one of his sample cues or not),
and I received my custom that did not have the balance and
feel like I was expecting, or the hit was terribly wrong from
what I expected, I probably wouldn't keep it either. If it is
right in those departments, I would never sell it unless I
became really rich, could be a collector, and would barter
for what I thought were better sticks.

Having the wrong balance and feel is like having the wrong
buttons of your shirt in the wrong buttonholes, it just pulls
at you till you have to do something about it.
 
Ive had a cue maker tell me that hes glad I still own the cue he made for me over ten years ago and he can tell its got a good home. I reacently had two more shafts made for the two cues he made for me and both cues came back looking like new,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thx Barry

Sometimes cue makers get emotionaly attached to their work,,,,,,,,,thats the sign of a master,,,,,,,,,amoung other things

btw,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Id NEVER sell my Barry Szambotis
 
Shorty said:
Thanks Chris and Mike...I really appreciate your answering this thread.

Shorty
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So let me know how much you want for the Titlist conversion :D
 
Jazz said:
So let me know how much you want for the Titlist conversion :D
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If you paid FULL RETAIL & WAITED THE FULL TIME then there can be no restrictions. But if the cuemaker moved you up on a list or gave you a discount for whatever reason selling the cue is in bad taste. Cuemakers can do you a favor at times for whatever reason, but they don't do it so you can turn a profit. For example if you called Barry Szamboti and he said he wasn't taking orders and you tell him you are dying from a weird tropical disease, and he agrees to build you a cue (fast since you only have 6 months) and gives it to you at a deep discount I feel selling it is in bad taste. But again if you wait the proper time and pay the full price then the cuemaker can't be mad at you.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
If you paid FULL RETAIL & WAITED THE FULL TIME then there can be no restrictions. But if the cuemaker moved you up on a list or gave you a discount for whatever reason selling the cue is in bad taste. Cuemakers can do you a favor at times for whatever reason, but they don't do it so you can turn a profit. For example if you called Barry Szamboti and he said he wasn't taking orders and you tell him you are dying from a weird tropical disease, and he agrees to build you a cue (fast since you only have 6 months) and gives it to you at a deep discount I feel selling it is in bad taste. But again if you wait the proper time and pay the full price then the cuemaker can't be mad at you.

Jim
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I think you bring up a great point here Jimbo. Just recently I saw a cue done by a cuemaker friend of mine and I inquired as to the details behind the cue. He explained that he made that for a young man who had passed away from cancer I do believe. Now the cue ended up in someone elses hands and I would assume the cuemaker would be a little disappointed, as I would be in his shoes. Eventhough the person has passed on, the cue should IMO should remain at least close to the family or that person. A cue like that has more sentimental value than a dollar figure IMO. For myself, I hope to pass down this Schick to my step-son and get him to appreciate the beauty of the game. Maybe not...maybe I am wishful thinking...cause right now he is more interested in Nintendo than anything...but never the less, that cue was made for him at a future date. Now if he doesn't want it for whatever reason, that is his business and not mine. I will just take the cue keep it myself...til Jazz or whomever gets it from my cold dead hands. ;)

Shorty
 
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