When Did You First Hear of Efren Reyes?

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Stars have aligned for me in this sport as it has with many of us. My grandparents had moved in with us after their leaving the Philippines to spend the rest of their years in the U.S. They became regulars at the local senior center with Mama doing a lot of knitting/crocheting activities and my Papa participating in shuffleboard, chess, and ... pool.

He never played the game when he was younger, but decided to take it up to pass the time. He bought a book, the best book he could find on the subject: Robert Byrne's Standard Book of Pool and Billiards.

The book became my bible once I stole it from Papa in 1983. This is when realized that I really loved the game and that there were actually books on the sport. So, I sought other books. They had one at the local library: Billiards: Hustlers & Heroes, Legends & Lies and the Search for Higher Truth on the Green Felt - John Grissim. I found my own copy years later from Amazon and pull it out a few times a year!

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=344196#post344196

In what seems today like just a passing three or four paragraphs about pool during his travels around the world, tucked between a trip to Borneo and bedroom romp with a pool-playing lesbian whom he thought he got pregnant was a quick story of his stop in the Philippines. His opponent in the PI was some shy kid that the locals goofed on by the name Efren Reyes. Grissim describes him as having the stroke that clearly made him a professional caliber player well above his own skill level. He also mentions that he heard that Reyes was the number 2 player in the Philippines. The two played a game or two of 1/15 8-ball (as this would have been the version to come over to the PI when it was an American Territory) and they played on 10 ft tables in tough conditions.

I didn't think much about the excerpt other than his description of playing pool in the Philippines. I tucked that little reading memory aside until a few years later ... something from Steve Mizerak (Winning Pocket Billiards possibly). In it, Mizerak went on to talk about the best 9-ball players. He mentions for some odd reason a non-American player: Efren Reyes from the Philippines. This is before I had heard of Efren coming to the States as Cesar Morales. Maybe that book told that story. I can't remember anymore. CRS.

That a country as tiny as the Philippines is mentioned for pool is one thing. For one to present Efren Reyes by name and then another to say he is one of, if not the best 9-ball player was just an outrageous discovery by a young Filipino-American just relatively starting out in this sport. And this discovery is as much a reason of why I continue to love this sport as anything. I never saw Efren play until the 1993 World Team Billiards Event. And, I am extremely fortunate to watch him play in person as often as I have, considering he was already getting past his prime at that time. Yet he never dropped much out of "prime" until just really couple of years ago.

So that's my story of when I first heard of Efren. And I've been following his story ever since.

Freddie <~~~ 10 ft tables, in case someone missed that
 
Reds Tournament, 1985

I first saw Efren Reyes at the Reds Tournament in Houston Texas in 1985.. Just a young little guy playing
around the clock...I believe he was playing Keith all night long.

And the Bob Byrnes Book of Pool and Billiards...I have the hard back edition from when it first come out.
I also called it my Bible. I was captain of a pool team, Airport Hotel in Limerick PA, and
whenever someone needed help with a shot I'd take the book to the table and say "It's in the book."
What good times we all had.

I always recommended that book to all players. And to the beginners, I'd recommend the Willie Mosconi blue cover book.
 
And the Bob Byrnes Book of Pool and Billiards...I have the hard back edition from when it first come out.
I also called it my Bible. I was captain of a pool team, Airport Hotel in Limerick PA, and
whenever someone needed help with a shot I'd take the book to the table and say "It's in the book."
What good times we all had.
My paperback copy completely fell apart!
 
My paperback copy completely fell apart!

:D


When I used to teach people how to play back in the 1980's, I used to tell them they need to read the blue Willie Mosconi book and Bob Byrne's book. They were only allowed to read them at my house. I learned to never loan books or you might not ever get them back. And if you do get them back, it's only because you had to go hunt people down.

After they read the books, then I'd take them to a pool table. This way...when I explained something, they might remember what I'm saying from the books.:smile:


Oh...I'm off topic already....
 
Heard of him in 1984, watched him in 1985.

At the 1984 Caesars Tahoe tournament I watched Jose Parica play. Everyone was raving about how he was beating all of the American players in money games. After one match, I overheard him tell someone that he was not the best player in the Phillipines. That was the first time I heard of Efren. In 1985 at the Sands Reno tournament I watched him play like ...... well the Magician. He destroyed Earl in the finals.
 
I first picked up a cue when i was in college in the late 90's. Then I started watching espn pool whenever it was on. Efren had the biggest impression on me, something about the hair/furled eyebrow combo focus, cheap shirts, and the stroke.
 
when I joined this site. His name was part of the anti-spam text field....I had no idea who he was and had to google it real quick to get the answer....
 
Youtube.

I'm a younger kid, so I first learned about Efren Reyes through searching youtube videos about how to get better at pool. I came across some of the "Efren's best shots" videos and then found the match between Efren and Jim Rempe.
 
Like many others I first saw Efren at Red's in Houston in 1985, when he was using the name Cesar Morales. Believe it or not, after he won the tournament I asked him to autograph a program for me and he signed it Efren Reyes. I thought that was strange but the name meant nothing to me at the time. All I knew was that Cesar Morales was just an alias.

Prior to this I spoke with John Grissim at Caesars Tahoe in 1982 and I was bragging about how strong our field was. He looked me in the eye and said there are players in the Philippines who can give any of these guys the eight ball. I truly thought he was crazy! I just chuckled at that absurd comment and said something like "Give the eight ball to Sigel or Buddy or Hopkins or Rempe? You MUST be kidding!"

I was to find out three years later he wasn't.
 
I remember watching pool on ESPN and this guy Efren was just different. I didn't know what pool was or how to play it but I figured out that you have to make the balls in order (9 ball on tv).
I watched him and I thought this is really a simple game all you gotta do is make 'em balls with a stick. Efren made it look easy there was something different about him. I don't know what it is but we all can see it. This guy was born to play pool, like it's part of his DNA. It's like he is hard wired for this game, for coming pool playing generation it's going to be hard to believe that such a man ever walked on this earth. He is truly the "magician".
 
The eight and the breaks.

He looked me in the eye and said there are players in the Philippines who can give any of these guys the eight ball. I truly thought he was crazy! I just chuckled at that absurd comment and said something like "Give the eight ball to Sigel or Buddy or Hopkins or Rempe? You MUST be kidding!"

I was to find out three years later he wasn't.

The way I heard it in 1985 he was giving the 8 and the breaks. Nine ball was a new game for him and he did not have a break ........yet.:cool:
 
Like many others I first saw Efren at Red's in Houston in 1985, when he was using the name Cesar Morales. Believe it or not, after he won the tournament I asked him to autograph a program for me and he signed it Efren Reyes. I thought that was strange but the name meant nothing to me at the time. All I knew was that Cesar Morales was just an alias.

Prior to this I spoke with John Grissim at Caesars Tahoe in 1982 and I was bragging about how strong our field was. He looked me in the eye and said there are players in the Philippines who can give any of these guys the eight ball. I truly thought he was crazy! I just chuckled at that absurd comment and said something like "Give the eight ball to Sigel or Buddy or Hopkins or Rempe? You MUST be kidding!"

I was to find out three years later he wasn't.

I was there also but he was not unknown. He was no where to be found till the tournament started. If you remember he went for like $100 in the calcutta and was bought by one of his entourage. When he showed up though there were players who knew who he was and how good he played.

Although at that time he actually was a nobody and even under his real name it would not have meant anything to anybody. His face would have been the possible problem. I actually doubt he was using his real name anywhere he went anyway. It is just not a good idea many times. I guess they were not taking any chances since those Red's calcutta's were topping like $30,000.00 so he stayed out of site. The calcutta was the only reason for the alias just in case. Didn't he already play Mike Sigel some months earlier?
 
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I FIRST heard of Efren when I lived and played in the same town as him for 3 years in the Philippines. I lived in the Philippines from 1979-82 and the Philippine champion was "Amang"..Jose Parica. As a matter of fact, I can remember a San Miguel beer ad on TV that had Jose doing a similar shot as the Mizarak Miller Lite commercial. This was BEFORE Efren ever came to the USA.

Joel, the "rack boy" at one of the clubs on Clark AB, was his friend and used to always tell me that I should go play his friend Efren. Was he steering me into a trap....will never know. He must have been robbing people in Manila and elsewhere for the money because I NEVER saw him down in the bars and clubs where you could win tons of money off the American GIs at the time.

Thinking back, I would have loved to have played him back them. He may have gotten all my cash, but it would have been fun losing it. I think I could have hung with him at the time on a bar table. My best 9-ball record of my life was playing on a bar table during those years.

I maybe could have bought Efren's $15 stick before he ever bought it. There used to be a young kid who shot pretty good who went up and down the strip trying to rob GI's playing pool and selling those cues on the side and I never bought one. Maybe I should have. I was using a RIchard Black cue at the time and Joel broke the ivory ferrule on one of my shafts banging balls around with it when I laid it on the table after everyone had quit playing because I had their money and I laid my cue on the table.

Maybe Efren and I were robbing the same people and didn't know it. LOL.

Anyway, I am GLAD to hear that he went FAR in the pool world. :) :)

I would LOVE to meet Efren. I can't believe we never met while I was there. Maybe he was using a different name then too. Maybe I knew Efren before he became "Ceasar Morales" before he became Efren again. LMAO.
 
I just had another memory of Efren. He was at my pool room early 80's matching up with a guy, he was with Mike Labron who was taking him around. I say this because Mike was the one making the games and seemed to have the final say. I went home and got my copy of the John Grissim book and wanted him to sign it. When I showed him the book he acted like he had never seen it. He was taking it around showing it to the guys he was with and they were all laughing. He did sign it for me.

When I was doing some cleaning out a few years ago I was getting rid of stuff and sold the book on ebay. I got a big price for it. I would bet that who ever bought the book from me reads this forum. I know most will be thinking "I would never sell something like that." You get tired of all your stuff after a while. Maybe if I had kids I would keep stuff.
 
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I was in the Navy 1968-1972 and spent a good amount of time at Subic Bay Naval Base in the PI. The was a pool hall on the base and I used to play cheap nine-ball with one of the locals. One day after I had beat him pretty badly he said, "If you want a real game go play the kid in Angeles City." I never made it to Angeles City.

It was probably almost twenty years later that I found out that Efren was from Angeles City and that his nickname, Bata, means the kid in Tagalog. I told this story to Efren not long ago, and he smiled and said, "That's me."
 
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, “Let there be Efren Reyes!”
 
And God said, “Let there be Efren Reyes!”

And it was good.

When I started playing(joining APA), people would toss out names here and there. The bar I started in had hosted some big tournaments and had plaques with local names such as Bill Cress, Schumacher and some others. Some of the bar people knew things, just not experts. Looking up Efren after hearing about him both from other players and from here, simply watching him was fun.. he really is a kid when he's playing. Having the pleasure of seeing him play in person last year only confirmed it. He got a little frustrated on a few shots, iirc, but that tended to last only a few seconds before he was just watching the table intently and then seemed almost giddy when he'd get back to the table and lay down a nice run.
 
Lets see

Lets see:) Mid to late 80's in Colorado springs. Now my memory is quite fuzzy from those days....lol If i remember right he was putting on a some kind of charity exhibition and i think he played a set against Laura Smith for the show. I seem to remember he was also with Parica or maybe just the guy he traveled with. I remember at the time when he and the guy he was with walked by me that he didn't look like nothing special! I don't know if Island Drive was there. Maybe he will chime in if he was.
 
I just took up pool three years ago. One of my first actions was to watch tournament videos on youtube. Luckily, I chose one with Efren Reyes. I think it was the Reyes-Rempe match. I continued to watch more Reyes matches because he seemed like a good player to emmulate and he was fun to watch. At the time I didn't know he was one of the best that ever played the game.
 
Remember watching
him in a tour. finals on TV. They keep talking about his cheap pool stick.
 
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