I think this is only true if you leave the Gold Crown rails in the original condition they left the Brunswick factory. My GC1 had the full treatment with tight 4 1/2" pockets and it plays as fast or faster than the local big Blue Label Diamonds.
Which table plays tougher?
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I think this is only true if you leave the Gold Crown rails in the original condition they left the Brunswick factory. My GC1 had the full treatment with tight 4 1/2" pockets and it plays as fast or faster than the local big Blue Label Diamonds.
I think this is only true if you leave the Gold Crown rails in the original condition they left the Brunswick factory. My GC1 had the full treatment with tight 4 1/2" pockets and it plays as fast or faster than the local big Blue Label Diamonds.
That looks tighter than 4.5" pockets.
If we go by Dr.Dave's TDF(Table Difficulty formula), 4.5" pro-cut diamond plays about the same difficulty as 4.25" GC's.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=324408&page=42
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=324408&page=42
I think this is only true if you leave the Gold Crown rails in the original condition they left the Brunswick factory. My GC1 had the full treatment with tight 4 1/2" pockets and it plays as fast or faster than the local big Blue Label Diamonds.
Dude, that's more like 4&1/4 or 1/8
Correct.
I've played on both.
Diamonds are tougher because of the deeper shelf.
All other things being even.
PoolChump
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A new 4 inch or tigher pocket standard
Pool in general needs to be tougher. I say change the new pocket standard size to 4 inch.
Pool in general needs to be tougher. I say change the new pocket standard size to 4 inch.
You say a lot of things, the only issue is that they don't make good sense. Carry on Chump
I dont think its quite that small, I thought it actually measured 4 3/8". It was supposed to be 4 1/2" but I am not complaining. Once the balls wont fit side by side you gotta start putting them on a pretty big angle to try to illustrate pocket size, its deceiving.
This was posted on one pocket.org. Greg Sulivan describing diamond pockets. Really interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG9CqK95U2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG9CqK95U2E
That's actually why I don't like playing on new Diamonds with fast Simonis, I feel like I have to hit with a fake slow stroke or use an extra rail for position, either way it kills my aiming and spin. But that may just be how I learned to play, I hit harder and a bit lower or with inside to kill speed vs just tapping the ball.
Great info. Thanks for the link.
There is nothing false about this statement, but I can't, for the life of me, understand this mindset.
The consistency from table to table is what makes Diamonds better. Consistency is the "holy grail" in billiard sports.
At the advanced levels of skill, of course it will be easier to run out on a more consistent table. It doesn't mean the inconsistent tables are better.
Saying you like a brand of tables based on the fact that each table play differently just doesn't make sense to me. If you take this line of reasoning out to its logical conclusion, then we all should be seeking to play on the crappiest, unlevel, dead railed, pitted balled table we can find.
Is playing on different types of tables good? Yes!
Is being able to adjust to adverse conditions a valuable skill set? Absolutely!
But why would you seek out these conditions?
You can't expect to become a very consistent player without confidence that the tables will react in a consistent way.
You will become stronger, faster, if you build your fundamentals upon consistent conditions.
People always seem to want to make GC's play like Diamonds play "right out the box", its rarely the other way around
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