well suprnova you've got my attention once again with some of your "opinions". Larry and Jesse played 2 sets on the bar table 5 years ago during the vnea 500 beans each with larry winning both. please tell me you understand that two sets doesn't put larry in a different class when you are speaking about 2 world class bar table players. that's what this thread is about "bar tables" not big tables! to the poster who wondered about larry playing for big $$$. Larry is the most talented player I've ever seen. But something between Larry's ears doesn't allow him to gamble at the same level he plays tournaments. to say the least he is his own worst enemy!. I've been around all of these players and know Jesse and Larry on a personal level so I think my opinions have some validity to them. It is a coin flip when speaking about these players playing on a bar table. they are all capable of putting big packages together.