Who Has Run 100?

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drivermaker

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In the other thread about running 100 in straight pool, Stan Shuffet, Steve Lipsky, and Rod mentioned that they have run 100 or more.

Who else has done it?

You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone. BULLSHIT! I've run 5 racks of 9 ball on a few occasions and THAT is NOTHING compared to running 100 or more in straight. NOTHING!

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
 
drivermaker said:
In the other thread about running 100 in straight pool, Stan Shuffet, Steve Lipsky, and Rod mentioned that they have run 100 or more.

Who else has done it?

You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone. BULLSHIT! I've run 5 racks of 9 ball on a few occasions and THAT is NOTHING compared to running 100 or more in straight. NOTHING!

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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Sadly, I missed the century mark several times. I have ran 70's-80's and a 96 once but never achieved that 100... :mad: But I play lotsa one pocket where 8 wins :D
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
Sadly, I missed the century mark several times. I have ran 70's-80's and a 96 once but never achieved that 100... :mad: But I play lotsa one pocket where 8 wins :D
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LOL, No 100 here... it's a goal, but not close yet! Now, I've banked 5 and out a few times in short rack, but to me, that's nothing even close to running 100 in 14.1.

Later,
Bob
 
drivermaker said:
You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone.

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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D'maker,
Perhaps the type of equipment enters into the consideration of the significance of someone's hundred ball runs. I've played probably a couple of hundred hours of straight pool with some of the best players on the planet ON RELATIVELY TOUGH equipment. The highest run I've seen was 58 (by Johnny Archer, over about 6 hours of play).

Those posters who think running a hundred on tough equipment is an easy feat are misinformed. Even for a professional it is a significant achievement. On the easiest equipment I've seen, Fast Larry's dog might run a hundred.

I also feel that runs should only be counted in competition for some type of stake (emotional or financial). Letting someone start with ball in hand is like giving them 14 balls - perhaps we should just subtract 14 from these high runs. In addition, if you are just trying to run up a number, you may take all sorts of crazy, and difficult shots to keep the run going when you get out of line - something you might never do in a competitive game. Competition puts a premium on staying in line, following the principles of 14.1 to MINIMIZE RISK, and also forces you to deal with external pressure as well as internal.
 
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drivermaker said:
So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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Hey DM... on the CCB board, there is a regular poster named Dick "Butch" Leonard. Not sure if he posts here. Anyway, a mutual friend tells me Mr. Leonard would pretty much run 100 whenever he wanted, and he has done it with each hand.

I think running 100+ with your opposite hand is among the greatest feats I've ever heard.

- Steve
 
drivermaker said:
In the other thread about running 100 in straight pool, Stan Shuffet, Steve Lipsky, and Rod mentioned that they have run 100 or more.

Who else has done it?

You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone. BULLSHIT! I've run 5 racks of 9 ball on a few occasions and THAT is NOTHING compared to running 100 or more in straight. NOTHING!

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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my budie Larry Nevel can run a hundred with his eyes closed lol But what pro has not ran a hundred I guess. There is a guy at our pool hall that has ran 200 or more.His name is john branden <rebel>
 
I agree with Steve on the opposite hand thing. Amazing.
I've broke the century mark several times and had quite a few in the 80's and 90's. I will say that most of them have been run on pretty soft equipment. I am proud to say that the highest run, was on what I felt was a pretty tough table. It was a little tight and pretty slow. I hadn't played a game of straight pool in over a year and stopped at a pool hall during the day to kill some time. A kid who was hanging out there asks if I would like to play some cheap. I say sure and ask him to play 14.1. Thankfully he agrees and I get my high run for the pressure packed amount of..............$20 thank you very much!!!
:D
 
Williebetmore said:
The highest run I've seen was 58 (by Johnny Archer, over about 6 hours of play).
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At the Joss finale I was watching Archer warm up for a match and he was playing straight pool. My buddy Matt and I counted and he ran 55 before giving up the table to his opponent to practice on. Those were very tight Diamond tables and he could have easily kept going.
Very impressive.

Koop - who's high run is too embarrassing to mention :)
 
drivermaker said:
In the other thread about running 100 in straight pool, Stan Shuffet, Steve Lipsky, and Rod mentioned that they have run 100 or more.

Who else has done it?

You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone. BULLSHIT! I've run 5 racks of 9 ball on a few occasions and THAT is NOTHING compared to running 100 or more in straight. NOTHING!

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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Thirty years ago, when I was young and single, I lived in Miami Florida. Due to it's elevation above sea level, there are few basements in Miami. When I decided to purchase a pool table for my home, I found that the only room large enough to accomodate a pool table was the living room/dining room area. I had an 8 foot table installed right square in the middle. I was playing almost any time I wasn't working or sleeping, and was thinking about playing when I wasn't! This period of my life lasted about 4 years and I got to be a pretty good "shot maker". Unfortunately it was years later before I met any real pool players, those who eaked out a living playing pool! I could make just about any shot I could see but had little knowledge of the intracasies beyond simple position play, because I wasn't playing with better players, who I could learn from. I was playing mostly straight pool and 8-ball back then and had one run over 100 (122 actually) and several in the 80's. In more recent years since I've met and known a lot of the top pros and have learned much more about the game, I seldom play straight pool but would feel elated over a 50 ball run these days! I don't have the concentration and focus to play straight pool any more. Now I play one-pocket almost exclusively and can run eight and out occasionally, but I don't feel presured to complete a run. I'd just as soon lock my opponent up and see him squirm!


just more hot air!

Sherm
 
Steve Lipsky said:
Hey DM... on the CCB board, there is a regular poster named Dick "Butch" Leonard. Not sure if he posts here. Anyway, a mutual friend tells me Mr. Leonard would pretty much run 100 whenever he wanted, and he has done it with each hand.

I think running 100+ with your opposite hand is among the greatest feats I've ever heard.

- Steve
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That's incredible. I literally CAN'T run 3 fookin' balls left handed, even if all 3 were hangers.
 
Williebetmore said:
I also feel that runs should only be counted in competition for some type of stake (emotional or financial). Letting someone start with ball in hand is like giving them 14 balls - perhaps we should just subtract 14 from these high runs. In addition, if you are just trying to run up a number, you may take all sorts of crazy, and difficult shots to keep the run going when you get out of line - something you might never do in a competitive game. Competition puts a premium on staying in line, following the principles of 14.1 to MINIMIZE RISK, and also forces you to deal with external pressure as well as internal.
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Willie, I disagree with this for a few reasons. The first is that most shooting innings in a competition game of straight pool quickly turn into "open" innings anyway. I think if you were to compare AVERAGE points-per-inning between games and practice, that is where you would have a legitimate point. Obviously average balls-per-inning will be higher (for the reason you mention) if you are always starting with an open inning.

The second and more important point I'd like to offer is that even top-tier straight pool players end their runs on misses a lot, and leave open tables when they do. It's a misconception that most innings end on safes. From my experience, players are much more aggressive in 14.1 than some might think. I have long held the contention that running 80 and missing is better than running 20 and playing safe - and from my years of playing, that has been my experience. If my opponent runs 20 and plays safe, I kind of look at that as a failed inning for him. Now I have a chance to beat him in a safety battle and regain control. If my opponent runs 80 and misses, I'm exactly where I would be if I'd beaten him in the safety battle, except now I have to run 80 just to catch up.

Finally, pressure from a match can work both ways. It is often difficult to focus completely when practicing, because there is no external pressure. The extra focus one feels from a match can be a tremendous aid. I recently played in my first 14.1 event in a long time a few weeks ago, and I played better than I have in the last six months. I can attribute it to nothing but feeling that focus again.

And on a personal note, if I am practicing straight pool, I will not take a crazy shot to continue from a tough spot. That ruins the integrity of the run. I'd rather just start over.

My high run in competition is 142, done in the finals of an event in Pennsylvania. But if someone asks, I say my high run is 177 (done in "practice"), and I'm very proud of it.

- Steve
 
Steve Lipsky said:
Hey DM... on the CCB board, there is a regular poster named Dick "Butch" Leonard. Not sure if he posts here. Anyway, a mutual friend tells me Mr. Leonard would pretty much run 100 whenever he wanted, and he has done it with each hand.

I think running 100+ with your opposite hand is among the greatest feats I've ever heard.

- Steve
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I was privilaged to witness many hundreds by one of my closest friends Tom Brown of NJ. He took the balls off the table pretty sporty, still does. Racked for Richie Ambrose one Sunday afternoon as he smoothed out 168 before he hadda stop for a nature call, HAHAHA. I played 14.1 with French Champion Stephan Cohen every chance I could during his stay in the U.S. several years ago...everyday he had at least one 100 ball run. But the best 100+ run I ever seen was from Johnny Ervolino. He ran 148...one rack left handed, one rack ONE handed and was whistling, singing and joking around. Gifted player and sorely missed.
 
drivermaker said:
I would imagine it might be a lot less than you think, especially with all of the young 9-ballers focusing on that game only.
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I'd guess the same.
 
drivermaker said:
In the other thread about running 100 in straight pool, Stan Shuffet, Steve Lipsky, and Rod mentioned that they have run 100 or more.

Who else has done it?

You guys are talking about running 100 over there like it's a piece of cake and attainable to anyone. BULLSHIT! I've run 5 racks of 9 ball on a few occasions and THAT is NOTHING compared to running 100 or more in straight. NOTHING!

So who else...my hat is off to you and you have my utmost respect.
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Running balls is know-how and a little luck. Years ago when straight pool was the thing if you went to the city there was a guy on every corner that could run a 100 with no problem. I won't call it a trick but if you know how and have a knack for running balls it is not that hard. To someone who doesn't know how it can seem like the hardest thing in the world. It has been my experience that many players seem to over complicate the game. It doesn't really require perfect play, in fact the game it is quite forgiving in my opinion. I used to play in a pool room although in Miami had a lot of a lot of NY players. It was common for someone to just set up a break shot and say, "OK 50 for coffee" and run off 50 or more almost at will. For some guys it was like an even bet. Mike Massey set up a break shot at the pool room one night and looked over and said, "I will take three tries to run 75" He did it on the second try. I don't know how you play but if you played a few days with a good straight pool player, he would have you running balls in no time if you have any ability to play. I used to play with Danny D. very often and running balls became almost second nature. The table can make a big difference though It can give or take away a poorly hit ball making running balls a little more easy or more difficult. The balls can also be a factor, you like nice clean balls that open up good.
 
macguy said:
Running balls is know-how and a little luck. Years ago when straight pool was the thing if you went to the city there was a guy on every corner that could run a 100 with no problem. I won't call it a trick but if you know how and have a knack for running balls it is not that hard. To someone who doesn't know how it can seem like the hardest thing in the world. It has been my experience that many players seem to over complicate the game. It doesn't really require perfect play, in fact the game it is quite forgiving in my opinion. I used to play in a pool room although in Miami had a lot of a lot of NY players. It was common for someone to just set up a break shot and say, "OK 50 for coffee" and run off 50 or more almost at will. For some guys it was like an even bet. Mike Massey set up a break shot at the pool room one night and looked over and said, "I will take three tries to run 75" He did it on the second try. I don't know how you play but if you played a few days with a good straight pool player, he would have you running balls in no time if you have any ability to play. I used to play with Danny D. very often and running balls became almost second nature. The table can make a big difference though It can give or take away a poorly hit ball making running balls a little more easy or more difficult. The balls can also be a factor, you like nice clean balls that open up good.
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That's nice...so have you done it?
 
cuesmith said:
Thirty years ago, when I was young and single, I lived in Miami Florida. Due to it's elevation above sea level, there are few basements in Miami. When I decided to purchase a pool table for my home, I found that the only room large enough to accomodate a pool table was the living room/dining room area. I had an 8 foot table installed right square in the middle. I was playing almost any time I wasn't working or sleeping, and was thinking about playing when I wasn't! This period of my life lasted about 4 years and I got to be a pretty good "shot maker". Unfortunately it was years later before I met any real pool players, those who eaked out a living playing pool! I could make just about any shot I could see but had little knowledge of the intracasies beyond simple position play, because I wasn't playing with better players, who I could learn from. I was playing mostly straight pool and 8-ball back then and had one run over 100 (122 actually) and several in the 80's. In more recent years since I've met and known a lot of the top pros and have learned much more about the game, I seldom play straight pool but would feel elated over a 50 ball run these days! I don't have the concentration and focus to play straight pool any more. Now I play one-pocket almost exclusively and can run eight and out occasionally, but I don't feel presured to complete a run. I'd just as soon lock my opponent up and see him squirm!


just more hot air!

Sherm
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There was a room in Miami called the Congress Billiards. At the time you are talking it was one of the biggest action rooms in the country. It was open 24 hours you may have, without knowing, it lived just a few minutes from pool heaven.
 
Williebetmore said:
D'maker,
Perhaps the type of equipment enters into the consideration of the significance of someone's hundred ball runs. I've played probably a couple of hundred hours of straight pool with some of the best players on the planet ON RELATIVELY TOUGH equipment. The highest run I've seen was 58 (by Johnny Archer, over about 6 hours of play).

Those posters who think running a hundred on tough equipment is an easy feat is misinformed. Even for a professional it is a significant achievement. On the easiest equipment I've seen, Fast Larry's dog might run a hundred.

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Thanks for your posts. Very well said. Where I play the tables are shimmed but even more so some of the pockets are flared too much so if you hit the rail, they do not drop. Since the time they shimmed the pockets, a few have run 80 only because the cloth was brand spank'in new. Bad shots will slide in.

I get bored playing 14.1 so I rarely play and play pool in general only once or twice a week at best. My best since then was a couple 50 something and more regularly 30's and 40's. I think Cardiac Kid who posts here may have the high run since the tables have been re-done. He is a quality 14.1 player. Before the tables he's had many 100's. Actually ran a 156 (or 165 can't remember) against me.
 
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