Sherm
No problem.
Kevin
PS I'm now of the opinion that this cue is worth more than $203
Who Made This GORGEOUS Old Sharp Splice Cue?
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Sherm
No problem.
Kevin
PS I'm now of the opinion that this cue is worth more than $203
Palmer and Paradise never that I can visually confirm, did a slotted ivory diamond. I still stand by the fact that prior to a certain time frame they are rare in ivory. It as also rare at that time to round the corners windows, so I think it leaves out a lot of people.
It maybe a Helmstetter, it maybe a bunch or different guys, who knows.
JV
Joe
Really the reason I'm hung on Helmstetter is I can't verify with him to eliminate him. It sure does look like his design eye, but it would have been early for him so who knows.
Hope all is well
Kevin
Not bad for a "reasonable straight" mystery cue with mismatched shafts.
I guess your little PR stunt here worked quite nicely , well played sir.
Not bad for a "reasonable straight" mystery cue with mismatched shafts.
I guess your little PR stunt here worked quite nicely , well played sir.
Thanks for reading my mind. My "stunt" was actually me going to AZ Billiards where the experts are, thinking (silly me) that I might find someone who knew something or recognized the cue.
I came to AZ looking for information, what I got was plenty of opinion, much of it negative. Nothing too new there.
Thanks again
Kevin
I like your cue. That's a cool theme.
I have hit some balls with this cue and it has a 1970s cue feel, hefty in the handle with a very solid hit. These older cues were built to push the cue ball around much slower cloth and less reactive rails and the balls themselves were relatively dead. So when you (at least in my experience) hit balls on new equipment with older cues, you are quite surprised by how much "stroke" you suddenly have. This cue is no different from that.
Thanks
Kevin
Yea, it didnt really go your way. My only comment on that would be that you seemed to be a little too hell bent on making it into more than it is despite many of the obvious signs that its most likely nothing more than just another old cue. But I see your motivation , you have no personal interest in it other than to sell it make money on it so it's understandable to try and get any kind of confirmation of pedigree to boost it's value.
Good luck with the sale , looks like its not doing to bad for what it is.
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You think that me hoping someone would recognize this cue as an early Helmstetter was me "hell bent on making it into more than it is" ?
Oh i see.
Anyone who doesn't play by your rules is a troll.
Haha.
Don't see how what i might play with has any bearing on the fact that the rings on this cue are messed up. (amongst other things)
And knowing isn't going to magically make the rings on this cue line up all of a sudden.
But i betcha i can go dig out an ancient Taiwan job junker cue from the closet that has rings, and the rings will line up better then the rings on the cue in this thread.
Dude, the whole point of this thread was to find out who made the cue. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE CUE. You've never even alluded to anything that would point to you even having a clue who made the cue. You haven't even ventured an educated guess! You pointed out something valid, the rings on the butt don't line up. Aside from that, you're not adding anything but negativity. Is there even a reason you're chiming in?
That being said, I think it's a great looking cue.
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Sure and others things. You have no reason to believe anything you speculated on in this whole thread but that didn't stop you from dropping virtually every big name in the business.
Then you put the cue up for sale in like the first couple of pages in the thread and made that pretty obvious right down to the bidding updates. The whole thing sounds like a fishing expedition and weak attempt to get attention for the purpose of the sale. Not the first time we've seen it done here, so no foul on your part. But I call a spade a spade when I see it. Look its no biggie, your wondering why you got so much negativity and I'm giving you my opinion based on my perspective ..... which apparently I'm not alone in.
Take it as constructive critism and learn from it or don't. Your choice.
Sure and others things. You have no reason to believe anything you speculated on in this whole thread but that didn't stop you from dropping virtually every big name in the business.
Look its no biggie, your wondering why you got so much negativity and I'm giving you my opinion based on my perspective ..... which apparently I'm not alone in.
Take it as constructive critism and learn from it or don't. Your choice.
What big names did Kevin drop? A guess that it might've been an early attempt by Dan Janes? An early pre-Adam Helmstetter? Read back the whole thread, because these are the only two he guessed may have made the cue. I wouldn't call that "dropping virtually every big name in the business." As for venturing a guess that it might have been possibly a Spain forearm.. Judging by the quality of the splice and the even-ness of the quality of the veneers I would have taken a guess at the same thing, especially considering the era when only a few people were capable of that kind of point/veneer work. I think the fact that Kevin deals mainly in higher end cues like Gina's might make you think that he's trying to put this cue into the league of those he usually sells - but try reading, because he hasn't.
And you don't think the sale had anything to do with it?
One thing we can be sure of about who made the cue. They did a hack job on it.
If the whole point of the thread was to find out who made the cue, the rings not lining up can be used to rule out cue makers who are not retarded hacks. i.e. taking names off the list of potential guys who made it.
Plus the title said "...GORGEOUS...cue"
As far as i am concerned, a cue that has busted up rings and other flaws, is not gorgeous. Not at all.
While you're at it Kevin, I think you need an opinion from Billings.
He would know for sure.
If I recall correctly, Billings only deals in facts, not opinion.
Please call me at your convenience regarding this matter.
Thanks
Kevin
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PS I'm now of the opinion that this cue is worth in excess of $364
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