Why are Jacoby cues not more popular? Are they not considered custom?

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justinb386

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I am sorry if I asked this question in the past, but I am just very curious why Jacoby cues are not more popular?

I am curious, because very few people have been interested in the one that I have.

Are Jacoby cues not really considered to be custom?

Would you consider them more of a production cue maker, and if so, how would you rate Jacoby compared to other production cue makers?

If you consider him a custom cue maker, then how would you rate Jacoby compared to other custom cue makers?

The finish on my Jacoby is currently in need of a refinish, so I think that might be the main reason why I am not getting much interest in the cue.

I just wonder if it is even worth refinishing, in order to try to sell it after a refinish.

I think I can get it completely refinished locally (from Tony Sauer), but I am not sure how good the quality of a finish he would put on the cue, or it it would just hurt the value of the cue (if the finish does not look that good).

Jacoby on the other hand might charge $150 or more (I am not sure) to refinish the cue, and not sure if that would even be worth it, if I could not get over $500 out of the cue even after a refinish.

Here are a few pictures of the cue.

Thanks for any thoughts.
 

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Who says they are not popular? Toyota's are pretty popular, but ones that are beat up don't sell as quick. Next question.
 
justinb386 said:
I am sorry if I asked this question in the past, but I am just very curious why Jacoby cues are not more popular?

I am curious, because very few people have been interested in the one that I have.

Are Jacoby cues not really considered to be custom?

Would you consider them more of a production cue maker, and if so, how would you rate Jacoby compared to other production cue makers?

If you consider him a custom cue maker, then how would you rate Jacoby compared to other custom cue makers?
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I can only answer for my self.

1. They're not popular WITH ME because to me they have a 'weird' hit.
Nothing wrong with it in the least, just feels kinda weird.

2, 3, and 4. No I personally don't consider Jacoby to be a custom cue?
I would perhaps call it semi-custom but that's as far as I'm willing to go on that.
Maybe there's something new in the Jacoby manufacturing that I don't know
about but until then I consider them semi-custom at the most.

5. Nice way to boost your publishing.....just splatter the thing right spank in the middle of the Main Forum.
Hat tip to you.
 
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It's likely the sleeve.......a buyer probably thinks $175 - $250 to refinish the cue plus the cost of shipping both ways so they keep browsing for a different cue.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
Who says they are not popular? Toyota's are pretty popular, but ones that are beat up don't sell as quick. Next question.
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Okay, so you would compare a Jacoby to a Toyota? So, would a Schon be like a Mercedes, or a BMW? Any thoughts to the other questions I asked? Thanks.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
It's likely the sleeve.......a buyer probably thinks $175 - $250 to refinish the cue plus the cost of shipping both ways so they keep browsing for a different cue.
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So, if it were in mint condition, I could probably easily get a decent price out of it? Or is the cue economy in general still doing very poorly? Thanks.
 
First, I have a Jacoby for sale right now, so full disclosure on test before giving my opinion.


I've been to the Jacoby shop, they are as custom as anyone if you want custom. They'll do short splice construction for sharp points with whatever veneers, inlays, etc, and they'll also tackle some pretty crazy builds that anything but classic. If you want to talk about a shop that can build just about any type of cue a customer wants a s who will actually do it and likely do it on time, the. It's tough to beat Jacoby.

I also think they're great playing cues, the one I'm selling was my player for a while and considering the quality of wood and the nice hit for the price, it's an amazing value.

They do not seem to do very well on the secondary market for some reason. I think part of it is the lack of exclusivity and part of it is with that bread of design comes the view that they don't really specialize in anything. As such, they just don't seem to have the cache other cues have. It's too bad, the cues I've not of theirs have all been solid and consistent players with great fit/finish at pretty great prices, especially for their simple cues.
 
That cue needs refinished badly, and it is probably only worth about 350-4 for most buyers to begin with. Nothing wrong with Jacoby's, tome they fall into the same category of schon and joss.
 
cubswin said:
That cue needs refinished badly, and it is probably only worth about 350-4 for most buyers to begin with. Nothing wrong with Jacoby's, tome they fall into the same category of schon and joss.
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I understand, and for $400, most would probably prefer to spend that cash on a Schon. So I am guessing not worth the cost of a refinish. Thanks.
 
Justin , I have no idea what the asking price is ( and don't put it in this thread otherwise it may get kicked ) but I would say it's probably too high of a price. Look at it this way; the condition is not your biggest problem imo. For instance you could have a cue in HORRIBLE condition ( not saying that yours is ) and if it is priced cheap enough it WILL MOVE 99% of the time. Conversely , you could have a cue that is in mint state just like it came from the factory and if it isn't priced right it WILL NEVER move. As to your other question, just in my personal opinion , I have never considered Jacobys as customs . Good luck.
 
BmoreMoney said:
Justin , I have no idea what the asking price is ( and don't put it in this thread otherwise it may get kicked ) but I would say it's probably too high of a price. Look at it this way; the condition is not your biggest problem imo. For instance you could have a cue in HORRIBLE condition ( not saying that yours is ) and if it is priced cheap enough it WILL MOVE 99% of the time. Conversely , you could have a cue that is in mint state just like it came from the factory and if it isn't priced right it WILL NEVER move. As to your other question, just in my personal opinion , I have never considered Jacobys as customs . Good luck.
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I am guessing that sometime in the past, David Jacoby was a purely custom cue maker, just like Dan Janes of those cues was (and actually still is,) a custom cue maker. So, I assume that once a cue make starts making more then 1 of the same cue, he no longer has that special rep as being a custom cue maker. I see that many cue makers have turned to doing production cue, because there is probably more money in it for them doing that. I assume that joss cues probably are more respected then Jacoby, and joss are not even as high end as Schon. I do not know. I guess it is all a matter of opinion.
 
Jacoby is still a custom shop. They'll build whatever you want. They also happen to build a catalog of designs, which one can argue makes them a production shop. OTOH they also build one-off's and exclusive designs for dealers that you won't find anywhere else, so IMO that's still custom.

The cue in my sig is a one-off that doesn't appear in any catalogs. It was a custom order made for Chi-Town Billiards where I bought it from. I've yet to ever see another like it, from Chi-Town or anywhere else.

Personally, I love Jacoby's and would own another in a heartbeat. I just happen to have Steve Lomax building my next cue.
 
justinb386 said:
I am guessing that sometime in the past, David Jacoby was a purely custom cue maker, just like Dan Janes of those cues was (and actually still is,) a custom cue maker. So, I assume that once a cue make starts making more then 1 of the same cue, he no longer has that special rep as being a custom cue maker. I see that many cue makers have turned to doing production cue, because there is probably more money in it for them doing that. I assume that joss cues probably are more respected then Jacoby, and joss are not even as high end as Schon. I do not know. I guess it is all a matter of opinion.
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If a custom cue maker decides to produce a run of cues to sell to a retailer, that doesn't mean that he is no longer a custom builder - provided he still builds customs.

About a year ago I went to Dave's booth at the Nationals. He is friendly and informative - he let me hit his hybrid shaft for a few racks, very nice shaft.

Anyway, he had a lot of cues on display and they were magnificent! Some of his no wrap designs were really something to see - and the finish he puts on them looked very good to me. Seems like a higher build up on his cues compared to what I am used to seeing.

He could build a custom for me any day.
 
Maxx said:
Is the shaft 11 mm, looks thin in pictures
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WHATS WRONG WIT U BRO!!! Telling the man he's got a thin shaft! Jk lol😃. On a serious note, what is the white stuff on the butt? Is it delamination of the clear or something like that ?
 
BmoreMoney said:
WHATS WRONG WIT U BRO!!! Telling the man he's got a thin shaft! Jk lol😃. On a serious note, what is the white stuff on the butt? Is it delamination of the clear or something like that ?
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If he posts pictures of that shaft this thread will be pulled fasted than the "send me money for Jesus" thread!
 
BmoreMoney said:
WHATS WRONG WIT U BRO!!! Telling the man he's got a thin shaft! Jk lol😃. On a serious note, what is the white stuff on the butt? Is it delamination of the clear or something like that ?
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Yep, the clear appears to be lifting. Which makes me wonder how that cue was stored..... :eek:
 
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