Why are John Davis blanks so sought after?

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I am kind of new to judging the components of a cue, so maybe this is more obvious to some. I can tell when points are uneven, or when the points are really short. But what about Davis blanks make them so high quality? Is it his veneer work or the quality of the woods he chooses? I have a cue with a blank made by Rounceville and I don't know how I would judge the difference between his and a Davis.

I can only assume Davis has a reputation for putting out consistent work that lends to being more sought after, in the same way cue makers gain popularity?
 
I am kind of new to judging the components of a cue, so maybe this is more obvious to some. I can tell when points are uneven, or when the points are really short. But what about Davis blanks make them so high quality? Is it his veneer work or the quality of the woods he chooses? I have a cue with a blank made by Rounceville and I don't know how I would judge the difference between his and a Davis.

I can only assume Davis has a reputation for putting out consistent work that lends to being more sought after, in the same way cue makers gain popularity?

I think you made the right decision
 
Quality stuff from a really good guy. John is easy to talk to, and very accommodating as to what kind of blank you are looking for.
You are also buying a piece of history when you use his product. Each one is made on some of the very same machinery used to make the famous Burton Spain forearms found in some Balabushkas. :smile:
 
Remember Tommie1351?

I bought a really nice PD cue in Goncalo Alves/BEM with two shafts from him for $600 just before his death. It's still my player. Tommie steered me clear of the JD name...said they needed work on the edges. NOT ready for paint & body.

I took his advice.
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Now I'm getting curious about my 2007 Josey...it has 4 traditional points, all needle sharp and even, with veneers. It's not one of Keith's more ornate cues. Could this have been a Davis blank?

I bought it more for it's playability. I'm not a collector, just wanted a nice playing cue.
 

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I own both an Arounceville and a Davis blank cue. To me, both are quality. My Arounceville is a wrapless double pointed sneaky or whatever that style of splicing is called and my Davis is a four veneered wrapless sneaky also.

I don’t own any super high-end custom half splice cues even though I could afford to buy one or two if I chose to. I just prefer to be able to discern the human element of production in my custom cues.

I’m probably an odd ball, but I don’t like perfectly even points and cues that have perfectly CNC’ed inlays and decorative elements in them. I find that type of “perfect” machining visually boring and unstimulating. When you create an image in your head, whether it be a painting or staring at a river, your brain is collecting and assembling unnumbered quantities of disparate visual elements and assembling them into an understandable and recognizable “whole” which you perceive as a unified image. High end cues tend to do the unifying for you. All the visual organization is done for you. This is why many of us on this site like straight up wood porn. There is no completed intrinsic design or organic intention to wood grain. It’s just there and you as a viewer have to mentally capture, unify and visually control it to enjoy looking at it.

Before someone goes nuts on me, yes I do believe there are some great cuemakers who do go beyond perfect cookie-cutter stylization in their cuemaking, but due to the limited canvas cuemakers have to work with, it’s a very difficult and expensive thing to achieve.

So, when someone like Davis has the skills and background to create a full splice blank using traditional hand build techniques and equipment which allows both the craftsman’s skill and human errors to coexist and show through at the same time, I will always choose those methods when considering which cues to buy. And when and if the human errors become a scar on the blank, then maybe it’s time to toss that one and try again. Some Davis blanks are definitely more perfectly done than others.

And he’s a really nice guy. He spent 4 hours in his garage/workshop with me BS’ing about factory life while I picked the veneers and he helped me design my cue and he picked the woods based on the final design.

It’s a good thing he doesn’t post on AZ, he’d be ripped apart royally by the high end cue collector crowd for his mundane and pedestrian approach to cuemaking. Snooty he isn’t. He’s a Schmelke fan—no more need be said. It doesn’t get any better than Schmelke.


Reply to previous posts: Davis is a retired machinist now and started building blanks again at retirement. Product “demand” is normally just a response to product availability. As long as Davis produces enough blanks to fill the “demand”, the demand for the product will never get any higher. Desirability is something different, however. The market can be totally flooded with a certain brand of car, for instance, and the lots can be full of unsold units, but they still can be desirable due to their quality and reputation—they’re just not in demand due to their availability--at that point the people who can afford them and really want them already have them.

Sharp even points are a product of the cue builder, being uneven is normally because the craftsman is not as skilled as he should be OR the blank was to small already to make the corrections.

I have 2 Davis blanks at a highly respected builders shop and without him there is no way I would ever get them even. Lol

No regrets, but I will also try some others like Arounceville next time.

You get a Lot of history with Davis.
Jason
 
I am kind of new to judging the components of a cue, so maybe this is more obvious to some. I can tell when points are uneven, or when the points are really short. But what about Davis blanks make them so high quality? Is it his veneer work or the quality of the woods he chooses? I have a cue with a blank made by Rounceville and I don't know how I would judge the difference between his and a Davis.

I can only assume Davis has a reputation for putting out consistent work that lends to being more sought after, in the same way cue makers gain popularity?

Good question, one I've given an answer to before, but it always seems to get misconstrued. Let's get it misconstrued again.

I think there are a couple reasons why, (right or wrong or whatever), but one of the main reasons is that John Davis owns a piece of history. He created the fixtures and methods for Burton Spain when Burton was trying different ways to make forearm blanks. John actually made many of the blanks for Burton as his machinist and helper. After Burton quit and before George Balabushka switched to buying blanks from Gus, John continued to supply George with blanks. So, reason #1 is really a historical piece from someone who has a place in the cue building history. I don't think anyone can deny that.

Secondly, John Davis settled on what looks like a unique dimensioning and look for a full-splice blank. It does look unique, so I suppose if someone is looking for the signature look of a John Davis full-splice front, there he be. Whether you like or don't like the look, that's for the individual to decide.

As I was clear last three times I said anything about this, I'm not making any statements on his quality or knowledge or anything of that sort. I do know that several cue builders don't mind using a John Davis blank, while others really would rather stay away from it and use their own.

Freddie <~~~ and here we go
 
Good question, one I've given an answer to before, but it always seems to get misconstrued. Let's get it misconstrued again.

I think there are a couple reasons why, (right or wrong or whatever), but one of the main reasons is that John Davis owns a piece of history. He created the fixtures and methods for Burton Spain when Burton was trying different ways to make forearm blanks. John actually made many of the blanks for Burton as his machinist and helper. After Burton quit and before George Balabushka switched to buying blanks from Gus, John continued to supply George with blanks. So, reason #1 is really a historical piece from someone who has a place in the cue building history. I don't think anyone can deny that.

Secondly, John Davis settled on what looks like a unique dimensioning and look for a full-splice blank. It does look unique, so I suppose if someone is looking for the signature look of a John Davis full-splice front, there he be. Whether you like or don't like the look, that's for the individual to decide.

As I was clear last three times I said anything about this, I'm not making any statements on his quality or knowledge or anything of that sort. I do know that several cue builders don't mind using a John Davis blank, while others really would rather stay away from it and use their own.

Freddie <~~~ and here we go


That's it in a nutshell. :thumbup:
 
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