Why CTE is silly

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Thanks. First time we are close to each other I will show you SAME AIM.....SPF=randyg

That would indeed be a treat.

I'm happy to read your insights, along with many of your colleagues, here on AZB. You folks truly provide an amazing service to the pool world by sharing your knowledge, thoughts and opinions here for us all.

Even in one of these crazy CTE knock-down-drag-outs.
 
CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).

Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch). Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond. Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.

This is so wrong it should be in the BIBLE!

Are you saying that all shots that are pocketed by using stun should scratch in the adjacent pocket?? Do you even PLAY POOL??

Actually, what you've posted is just more CTE "double talk." It's preceding "depending on the layout of the balls..." provides the equivocation necessary for the statement to actually say nothing.

It's the same as saying: "If the layout is such that making a ball with stun would cause a scratch then...making a ball with stun will cause a scratch."

Boy oh BOY this hundred page write-up is gonna be quite a read :)

Why do I have a growing feeling that, despite all the hype, NEITHER the hundred page write-up OR the DVD are ever going to see the light of day? (Well, maybe they will--as long as the necessary fudge can be found. With the DVD I'm guessing it will all be PROMISES--that will be fulfilled when you come for lessons...)
 
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CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).

Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch). Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond. Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.

There are times when using this method is more accurate than say, aiming at the ghost ball required for the carom angle--- others, not. Is feel involved - of course. Does it take a lot of practice... yup. Is it a powerful weapon when mastered - yup.

I have an idea. Let's have someone like Dr. Dave post a bunch of carom diagrams and Getmethere and I will post videos on how well we do.

Show me how to do a carom with cte? Explain please. Just do not say it can be done. I gave up having blind faith along time ago.

Do I have to keep posting shots that I've made that can not be made with CTE or any other system except ghost ball.

Ghost ball does not have any limitations like all the others aiming methods.

Its funny that not one so called instructor, those that want to help people improve their game, has said anything bout using the arrow or the benefits of it. I wonder why? HMMMMMMM......I won't answer this. Yes I will, its too simple and there is nothing to sale. The arrow is the best training device out there, period.

Good luck in proving me wrong. And I don't mean just spoutting off a bunch of jibberish.
 
Show me how to do a carom with cte? Explain please. Just do not say it can be done. I gave up having blind faith along time ago.

Do I have to keep posting shots that I've made that can not be made with CTE or any other system except ghost ball.

Ghost ball does not have any limitations like all the others aiming methods.

Its funny that not one so called instructor, those that want to help people improve their game, has said anything bout using the arrow or the benefits of it. I wonder why? HMMMMMMM......I won't answer this. Yes I will, its too simple and there is nothing to sale. The arrow is the best training device out there, period.

Good luck in proving me wrong. And I don't mean just spoutting off a bunch of jibberish.

Apparently you have selective reading. MUCH has been said about it on this forum. If it works for you, great. It doesn't work for everyone. And, it probably works for less people than it works for.
 
This is so wrong it should be in the BIBLE!

Are you saying that all shots that are pocketed by using stun should scratch in the adjacent pocket?? Do you even PLAY POOL??

Actually, what you've posted is just more CTE "double talk." It's preceding "depending on the layout of the balls..." provides the equivocation necessary for the statement to actually say nothing.

It's the same as saying: "If the layout is such that making a ball with stun would cause a scratch then...making a ball with stun will cause a scratch."
Boy oh BOY this hundred page write-up is gonna be quite a read :)

Why do I have a growing feeling that, despite all the hype, NEITHER the hundred page write-up OR the DVD are ever going to see the light of day? (Well, maybe they will--as long as the necessary fudge can be found. With the DVD I'm guessing it will all be PROMISES--that will be fulfilled when you come for lessons...)

This is absolutely what he meant.....................NOT! He stated in simple terms how using the tangent line after a thin cut could be added or subtracted to by bending the CB with draw or follow and possibly hit another object ball. The only part Cte plays in this suggestion is the initial aiming alignment used to hit the first object ball whether it is to pocket it or attain the desired tangent line.

This is innovative and demonstrates how Dave has consistently pushed the boundaries for those of us that actually understand pivot systems and are open to productive conversations about them. To the casual lurker they can be confusing, but in this thread the answer to all questions about Cte have been answered. For the the true student (as I was), Dave provided just enough information to all without showing the easy answer and just putting it all out there. You have to be willing to dissect and explore when the rest of us give up.

Your post was a direct attack and misquoted him very badly. I'm not asking you to be his best buddy... just get your friggin' facts straight before you send this thread South.

Dave, I use this method for caroms and also work it without actually aiming to pocket the object ball. Going further I use the same idea for combinations. Thanks for the tip about bending the CB off the tangent line.

Best,
Mike
 
This is absolutely what he meant.....................NOT! He stated in simple terms how using the tangent line after a thin cut could be added or subtracted to by bending the CB with draw or follow and possibly hit another object ball. The only part Cte plays in this suggestion is the initial aiming alignment used to hit the first object ball whether it is to pocket it or attain the desired tangent line.

Ah great! You understand it!

Please explain the statements related to scratching: ..."performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch)."

Please explain the above, so idiots like me don't think it's PURE DOUBLE TALK.
 
Ah great! You understand it!

Please explain the statements related to scratching: ..."performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch)."

Please explain the above, so idiots like me don't think it's PURE DOUBLE TALK.

I'm sorry, but how in the world did you make it through college with your reading comprehension?? Try reading the part you left out in your quote, the part that is critical to the statement he made. Then see if you can understand it a little better. :rolleyes: I think your disdain of not being spoonfed is causing you to misread everything said about it. Clear your mind, and try again.

It looks like you are cherry picking statements and parts of statements to prove that CTE doesn't work, instead of trying to understand what has been written and then going to a table to try it. Have you even tried any of this on a table?
 
Your post was a direct attack and misquoted him very badly. I'm not asking you to be his best buddy... just get your friggin' facts straight before you send this thread South.

Best,
Mike

I believe direct attacks are against the TOS that we all agreed to when we signed on? A ban at this point won't surprise anybody and I think a warning has already been issued.
Further discussion with this guy is senseless.
 
Sure it does. I just answered your question about MY thoughts on the mis-understandings of CTE.....SPF=randyg

Ok, but since many people are giving reasons for "why CTE is silly", I thought that getting rid of misunderstandings would clear things up a bit.
You basically told me three things:

1. You teach a CTE system, which already confuses me. I thought there was just CTE. Then stan comes up with PRO ONE, and now you with SAME AIM. But it's all CTE. So CTE is just a sandbox where everybody can create an individual system? Possible misunderstandig here.

2. SAME AIM is the best aiming system you ever used.

3. The misunderstanding (the answer to my question) is that none of the following matter:
Pivot
Pivot point
Bridge length
side spin
eye patterns
dominant eye
Throw
Deflection
Squirt

How so? According to CTE the pivot point does matter.
 
Thin cut

The answer has been posted already in this thread more than once. Pm Spidey. He has graciously provided many players, including myself, with his expertise at no charge. I am not anywhere near his level of knowledge on the subject and besides an arguably select few living players and instructors, Dave has pioneered a lot of the information you ridicule.

Making outrageous claims has ruined most Cte threads. I think this can be true for both sides of the fence.

Best,
Mike
 
[1]CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).

[2]Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch). [3]Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond. [4]Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.

There are times when using this method is more accurate than say, aiming at the ghost ball required for the carom angle--- others, not. Is feel involved - of course. Does it take a lot of practice... yup. Is it a powerful weapon when mastered - yup.

I have an idea. Let's have someone like Dr. Dave post a bunch of carom diagrams and Getmethere and I will post videos on how well we do.

Let's just go through this step by step, shall we? Sentence by sentence.

Let's be bold, and start with the first TWO sentences together:



#1: CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).


Means: CTE is accurate for caroms only if no follow or draw is used.

Right? What else can those two sentences mean? Of course, they CAN'T mean that--because later on he talks about the need to use draw or follow to adjust the carom. So let's be generous and interpret it as the only thing it COULD mean:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun.

Does that mean anything special? That non-CTE players wouldn't know? Does CTE have anything to do with that fact? No, No, and NO!



#2: Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch).


Well, this can only mean essentially nothing, because of the first clause "Depending on the layout of the balls." With that equivocation, the sentence means:

If the balls are laid out in a certain way, and you do a certain CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you'll scratch in the adjacent pocket.

The corollary to this can only be: And if the balls are laid out differently, and you do the same CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you WON'T scratch in the adjacent pocket.

Those two taken together are just...useless nonsense: "If you aim in certain ways, some shots will scratch, some won't." So let's be generous again and assume that CANNOT be what is meant. What could it be, then?

I can only assume this is the "setup" for the following sentence. So it must mean:

Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket.



#3: Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond.


Ok, this one is simple enough:

If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow.

Is that a big deal? Something any player wouldn't know? Something specific to CTE? No, No, and NO!

Does it have any special meaning in the context of a shot that would scratch with stun? No.



#4: Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.


This just means:

If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

Anything new? Players don't know this? Related to CTE?
Nopey, Nopey, NOPE!

So let's recap. Giving the most generous and plausible interpretation to the original statement, it's translated as:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun. Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket. If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow. If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

So...this is pool 101. What's CTE got to do with it?


Oh, and btw fellas. I've got this ALL FIGURED OUT! Ha! Here's the deal:

1) This is a test.
2) AZBilliards forum is actually a HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE forum--only people who are serious about pool and who don't have brain damage are allowed to get onto the actual forum.
3) New posters (such as myself) are put through a "training forum" where they're challenged with what appears to be COMPLETE NONSENSE that is enthusiastically supported by numerous members.
4) If the new poster is drawn into the discussion, it shows he cares enough about pool to not sit idly by while people are writing gibberish.
5) If he can withstand an onslaught, and still dissect the errors and give correct pool information, then he's not brain damaged.

So, Ok guys. I got it. It's time for my pat on the back, and entre to the inner sanctum forum :D

btw, all kidding aside (I could only DREAM that the real world really DID have secret inner forums). To anyone who would like to challenge or debate any of the above, please supply YOUR interpretation of sentences 1-4, and how they demonstrate that CTE is useful for carom shots.
 
This is so wrong it should be in the BIBLE!

Are you saying that all shots that are pocketed by using stun should scratch in the adjacent pocket?? Do you even PLAY POOL??

Actually, what you've posted is just more CTE "double talk." It's preceding "depending on the layout of the balls..." provides the equivocation necessary for the statement to actually say nothing.

It's the same as saying: "If the layout is such that making a ball with stun would cause a scratch then...making a ball with stun will cause a scratch."

Boy oh BOY this hundred page write-up is gonna be quite a read :)

Why do I have a growing feeling that, despite all the hype, NEITHER the hundred page write-up OR the DVD are ever going to see the light of day? (Well, maybe they will--as long as the necessary fudge can be found. With the DVD I'm guessing it will all be PROMISES--that will be fulfilled when you come for lessons...)

You know so LITTLE, you're SUPER hard to argue with. Read my post again, Capt. Dyslexia. I never said a word about pocketing the object ball (first ball hit), did I?

Since you know so much about ball pocketing and caroming - why don't you post a video of what you got? Show us your skillz mr. know it all. Borrow your dad's webcam and do something instead of blowing hot air. Or, for the love of God (since this has turned into a religious thread).....STFU.
 
Let's just go through this step by step, shall we? Sentence by sentence.

Let's be bold, and start with the first TWO sentences together:



#1: CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).


Means: CTE is accurate for caroms only if no follow or draw is used.

Right? What else can those two sentences mean? Of course, they CAN'T mean that--because later on he talks about the need to use draw or follow to adjust the carom. So let's be generous and interpret it as the only thing it COULD mean:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun.

Does that mean anything special? That non-CTE players wouldn't know? Does CTE have anything to do with that fact? No, No, and NO!



#2: Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch).


Well, this can only mean essentially nothing, because of the first clause "Depending on the layout of the balls." With that equivocation, the sentence means:

If the balls are laid out in a certain way, and you do a certain CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you'll scratch in the adjacent pocket.

The corollary to this can only be: And if the balls are laid out differently, and you do the same CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you WON'T scratch in the adjacent pocket.

Those two taken together are just...useless nonsense: "If you aim in certain ways, some shots will scratch, some won't." So let's be generous again and assume that CANNOT be what is meant. What could it be, then?

I can only assume this is the "setup" for the following sentence. So it must mean:

Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket.



#3: Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond.


Ok, this one is simple enough:

If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow.

Is that a big deal? Something any player wouldn't know? Something specific to CTE? No, No, and NO!

Does it have any special meaning in the context of a shot that would scratch with stun? No.



#4: Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.


This just means:

If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

Anything new? Players don't know this? Related to CTE?
Nopey, Nopey, NOPE!

So let's recap. Giving the most generous and plausible interpretation to the original statement, it's translated as:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun. Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket. If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow. If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

So...this is pool 101. What's CTE got to do with it?


Oh, and btw fellas. I've got this ALL FIGURED OUT! Ha! Here's the deal:

1) This is a test.
2) AZBilliards forum is actually a HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE forum--only people who are serious about pool and who don't have brain damage are allowed to get onto the actual forum.
3) New posters (such as myself) are put through a "training forum" where they're challenged with what appears to be COMPLETE NONSENSE that is enthusiastically supported by numerous members.
4) If the new poster is drawn into the discussion, it shows he cares enough about pool to not sit idly by while people are writing gibberish.
5) If he can withstand an onslaught, and still dissect the errors and give correct pool information, then he's not brain damaged.

So, Ok guys. I got it. It's time for my pat on the back, and entre to the inner sanctum forum :D

btw, all kidding aside (I could only DREAM that the real world really DID have secret inner forums). To anyone who would like to challenge or debate any of the above, please supply YOUR interpretation of sentences 1-4, and how they demonstrate that CTE is useful for carom shots.


Interpretation???? I'll make a video on exactly how CTE is useful for carom shots if you make a video of yourself doing anything useful on a pool table--- run 50 balls, run 5 racks, play some caroms, do SOMETHING. I think the only thing you could make a video on is blowing up balloons.
 
I'm sorry, but how in the world did you make it through college with your reading comprehension?? Try reading the part you left out in your quote, the part that is critical to the statement he made. Then see if you can understand it a little better. :rolleyes: I think your disdain of not being spoonfed is causing you to misread everything said about it. Clear your mind, and try again.

It looks like you are cherry picking statements and parts of statements to prove that CTE doesn't work, instead of trying to understand what has been written and then going to a table to try it. Have you even tried any of this on a table?

Let's see. What I left out was:


"There are times when using this method is more accurate than say, aiming at the ghost ball required for the carom angle--- others, not. Is feel involved - of course. Does it take a lot of practice... yup. Is it a powerful weapon when mastered - yup.

I have an idea. Let's have someone like Dr. Dave post a bunch of carom diagrams and Getmethere and I will post videos on how well we do."


Sorry. I guess I'm a failure. I fail to comprehend any useful additional information there. It seems like:

1) Vague equivocation: Sometimes it's better than other times. It takes feel and practice.

2) Some sort of silly bravado challenge involved Dr. Dave and myself.


Have you even tried any of this on a table?

From what I've seen so far, I'm sure that, at a minimum, it would cause some sort of brain damage. No, I haven't tried it out--although I HAVE made shots by hitting the OB at the 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 points, as calculated by coverage of OB by CB. Does that count?
 
Let's see. What I left out was:


"There are times when using this method is more accurate than say, aiming at the ghost ball required for the carom angle--- others, not. Is feel involved - of course. Does it take a lot of practice... yup. Is it a powerful weapon when mastered - yup.

I have an idea. Let's have someone like Dr. Dave post a bunch of carom diagrams and Getmethere and I will post videos on how well we do."


Sorry. I guess I'm a failure. I fail to comprehend any useful additional information there. It seems like:

1) Vague equivocation: Sometimes it's better than other times. It takes feel and practice.

2) Some sort of silly bravado challenge involved Dr. Dave and myself.




From what I've seen so far, I'm sure that, at a minimum, it would cause some sort of brain damage. No, I haven't tried it out--although I HAVE made shots by hitting the OB at the 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 points, as calculated by coverage of OB by CB. Does that count?

I'll address ya again whenever I respect you as a player. Until then, you're a nit who projects what he thinks he knows while really knowing nothing at all.

Here's a more appropriate forum for Getmethere:
http://www.crossstitchforum.com/
 
You know so LITTLE, you're SUPER hard to argue with. Read my post again, Capt. Dyslexia. I never said a word about pocketing the object ball (first ball hit), did I?

Since you know so much about ball pocketing and caroming - why don't you post a video of what you got? Show us your skillz mr. know it all. Borrow your dad's webcam and do something instead of blowing hot air. Or, for the love of God (since this has turned into a religious thread).....STFU.

Dave, if you have something useful to say you're going to have to say it through your 100 page manifesto. You're not doing well here. I don't have dyslexia--in fact, on all objective tests of reading comprehension and intelligence I test HIGH within the top 1%. That includes IQ, SAT, GRE, and MCAT. My objectively measured abilities to read, comprehend, and analyze are at least three standard deviations above the mean--they're nearly off the charts.....since you bring it up.
 
This is absolutely what he meant.....................NOT! He stated in simple terms how using the tangent line after a thin cut could be added or subtracted to by bending the CB with draw or follow and possibly hit another object ball. The only part Cte plays in this suggestion is the initial aiming alignment used to hit the first object ball whether it is to pocket it or attain the desired tangent line. ...

Sorry to quote myself, but you could have saved yourself some typing by reading the underlined portion of my previous post.

Best,
Mike
 
The only part Cte plays in this suggestion is the initial aiming alignment used to hit the first object ball whether it is to pocket it or attain the desired tangent line. ...

Sorry to quote myself, but you could have saved yourself some typing by reading the underlined portion of my previous post.

Best,
Mike

So, uh...CTE can be used to....uh...."know" that the CB will deflect on the tangent line? Wow, that CTE can do ANYTHING!!
 
Let's just go through this step by step, shall we? Sentence by sentence.

Let's be bold, and start with the first TWO sentences together:



#1: CTE can be used for caroms. One's accuracy with the method depends squarely on his/her ability to strike the OB with zero spin (no follow/draw).


Means: CTE is accurate for caroms only if no follow or draw is used.

Right? What else can those two sentences mean? Of course, they CAN'T mean that--because later on he talks about the need to use draw or follow to adjust the carom. So let's be generous and interpret it as the only thing it COULD mean:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun.

Does that mean anything special? That non-CTE players wouldn't know? Does CTE have anything to do with that fact? No, No, and NO!



#2: Depending on the layout of the balls, performing a thin alignment/pivot with no spin upon contact brings the CB to an adjacent pocket (scratch).


Well, this can only mean essentially nothing, because of the first clause "Depending on the layout of the balls." With that equivocation, the sentence means:

If the balls are laid out in a certain way, and you do a certain CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you'll scratch in the adjacent pocket.

The corollary to this can only be: And if the balls are laid out differently, and you do the same CTE "thin alignment/pivot," and hit the shot with no spin, then you WON'T scratch in the adjacent pocket.

Those two taken together are just...useless nonsense: "If you aim in certain ways, some shots will scratch, some won't." So let's be generous again and assume that CANNOT be what is meant. What could it be, then?

I can only assume this is the "setup" for the following sentence. So it must mean:

Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket.



#3: Using that as a baseline, applying proper draw/follow brings the CB up or down a diamond or % of a diamond.


Ok, this one is simple enough:

If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow.

Is that a big deal? Something any player wouldn't know? Something specific to CTE? No, No, and NO!

Does it have any special meaning in the context of a shot that would scratch with stun? No.



#4: Therefore, if there's another ball you'd like to hit, try to make, etc, you identify the track and apply the appropriate follow/draw required at contact.


This just means:

If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

Anything new? Players don't know this? Related to CTE?
Nopey, Nopey, NOPE!

So let's recap. Giving the most generous and plausible interpretation to the original statement, it's translated as:

When the CB hits the OB, the CB is deflected on a tangent when hit with stun. Imagine a shot where with CTE you would set up by "thin alignment/pivot" which, if hit with stun, would scratch in the adjacent pocket. If you know where the tangent points, you can move the CB angle with draw or follow. If you know how to apply the appropriate follow/draw, you can make make billiards off the OB with the CB.

So...this is pool 101. What's CTE got to do with it?


Oh, and btw fellas. I've got this ALL FIGURED OUT! Ha! Here's the deal:

1) This is a test.
2) AZBilliards forum is actually a HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE forum--only people who are serious about pool and who don't have brain damage are allowed to get onto the actual forum.
3) New posters (such as myself) are put through a "training forum" where they're challenged with what appears to be COMPLETE NONSENSE that is enthusiastically supported by numerous members.
4) If the new poster is drawn into the discussion, it shows he cares enough about pool to not sit idly by while people are writing gibberish.
5) If he can withstand an onslaught, and still dissect the errors and give correct pool information, then he's not brain damaged.

So, Ok guys. I got it. It's time for my pat on the back, and entre to the inner sanctum forum :D

btw, all kidding aside (I could only DREAM that the real world really DID have secret inner forums). To anyone who would like to challenge or debate any of the above, please supply YOUR interpretation of sentences 1-4, and how they demonstrate that CTE is useful for carom shots.

As I said, you have a reading problem. The question was, can CTE be used for caroms? Spidey showed how it could be used. Can tangent lines be used to do the same thing? Yes, nobody said they couldn't. Again, he was showing HOW CTE CAN BE USED FOR CAROMS. Not whether or not it is better than tangent lines, but just that it can be used. Do you understand now????
 
I'll make a video on exactly how CTE is useful for carom shots...

Why not make a video of just ONE POCKETED SHOT (that isn't straight in, or at "15, 30, or 45" degrees), showing EXACTLY, step by step, each move, which finally results in an alignment of cue and CB that point where a correct shot would need to be?

Of ALL the videos out there, I've NEVER SEEN SUCH A THING. (JB has explicitly stated that his videos are NOT demonstrating that, for example). Please provide a link, btw, if you know of such a video already available.

The video should include descriptions of HOW and WHY certain pivots and adjustments are made as determined in CTE, and how their EXTENT is arrived at by the use of CTE.

A video that shows: "edge alignment," "a pivot," and BANG, the shot goes in, WILL NOT QUALIFY.
 
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