A JB original statement! Why would you form impressions from other's arguments and experiences? Either your decision is already in your DNA or it isn't!
Funny.
If fact the best way to learn about something (before learning firsthand) is listening both to those FOR IT and to those AGAINST IT.
Of course. I was responding to Maniac's idea that anything I say should STOP him from trying CTE IF he really desires to KNOW what it is and how to use it.
You are saying the same thing I said a few posts ago.
The difference between you and me is that I can relate real experiences with the systems and you can't. You are arguing from an intellectual position while I am arguing from a practical one.
In this instance actually playing the game trumps talking about it.
IF you were to come on here and show us say an email from Dave Segal where he gave you step by step instructions and THEN you dissected it at the points you found to be weak THEN you'd have something concrete.
As it is you are talking down to something you can't even describe.
So if Maniac doesn't get when I say that CTE has helped ME and that's the extent of my personal testimony then that's his own thing to deal with.
I am not sure if he was trying to put me down somewhat or what but let me rephrase the whole statement - I regularly get spanked by people and I have NO CLUE what method they are using to aim, could be GB - feel - CTE - shadows, lights, click-your-heels three times etc - the point is that they can play and are better than me. That has NO BEARING on what I am doing in my own game.
I know that FOR ME - using Ghost Ball/Feel I play WORSE than I do using CTE/Hal's systems.
So I am glad that I learned it.
And furthermore I am also kind of glad that I wasn't tainted by the condescending skepticism when I first met Hal. I had stayed out of all the "aiming system" threads in full confidence that I did not NEED to learn anything more about aiming and I certainly did not want to argue about it.
BUT luckily for me Hal thought enough of me to ask me to come down to meet him and me being the kind of person who rarely refuses a request to meet someone and try something I did. And what I learned changed the way I look at pool forever.
And that the same experience most of us have had with these systems. That's why we are passionate about them and defend them.
All I ever want to hear from you or Pat or Mike is - I learned it - I tried it - it's not for me.
But the "I learned it part" is the one part you seem to want to skip which then means the last two are for you still unknowns.
So if Maniac wants to lean towards never learning and trying CTE then that's on him or her. But to make the statement that they are doing so because of how I play AGAINST others is not the right way to think of it in my opinion. The right way to think of it is how do I feel about my own game and my level of happiness when I play after learning and using Hal's systems. That's where my personal testimonials add weight to the 'Cte is a worthwhile thing to try' concept.